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Kicking a dog to death

gmisk

Dog killed by teenager after being kicked over the head of its owner https://jrnl.ie/5476852

Warning absolutely...horrible story....just 36 precious convictions...at 19.
He couldn't sleep remembering the screams of the dog...he killed....FFS ...cry me a river!

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Ten of Swords

This is currently before the courts.

Thread closed

Beasty

Re-opened following conviction:

https://www.thejournal.ie/josh-henney-six-months-sentence-dog-killed-5584517-Oct2021/

[Deleted User]

Presently in jail for leading assult on a shoplifter

https://m.independent.ie/news/teen-vigilante-jailed-for-savage-assault-on-shoplifter-39836790.html

gmisk

Some jail time but not long enough...given the horrific violence involved and the long list of past crimes the person who did it had!

gmisk

"He has 36 previous convictions and is currently serving a sentence of two years with the final six months suspended for an offence of violent disorder."

As long as the solicitors get paid sure thats the main thing.

SunnySundays

He's averaging a conviction every 6 weeks or less since he turned 18. Not sure there's much that can be done and he'll likely be in jail for most of his life and rightly so.

Even if he is let out, you can pretty much guarantee he'll be back before long.

Gen.Zhukov

An absolutely horrible story.

I've no idea how he sleeps at night.

The defence BL I mean.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118077650#Comment_118077650

I don't disagree scary to think how many people will he likely traumatise over the years...

Strumms

I thought well done to the judge initially reading he handed down a custodial sentence, I was surprised, but that surprise was tempered when I read 36 previous convictions at 19... WTF ???

A dangerous fûckwit like that needed a hell of a longer stretch then what he got... the force sent the dog over her head... sorry, a year minimum...

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118077714#Comment_118077714

He stole a card....it doesn't give someone the right to literally kick the crap out of someone with a group of his mates.

fatbhoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118077714#Comment_118077714

This is a despicable comment. So in your eyes, the other guy deserved to be beaten to a pulp for being a drug addict and shoplifting a greeting card?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118077661#Comment_118077661

Why? The job of the barrister is to assist the court in making the correct decision. It is important that whatever scumbag is up in court is given representation so that there can be absolutely no claims that he was given afforded other than completely fair process. Yes, he likely doesn't deserve that, but he has to go through that process before you can absolutely and definitely say so.

It is not the role of the barrister to be a judge and jury.

Jequ0n

What difference does it make what he stole? Would you condone it had he tried to steal a car? Or maybe a toddler, because then the assailant would have been applauded in this forum.

The accused did not kill the man, so he could not be tried for it.

noel50

5 years would be fair he will kill someone in the future not facing any consequence for his actions 6 months is a joke

Wanderer78

virtually nothing will be done to address his psychological issues, so round and round we go......

usernamegoes

Using prison as a punishment or deterrent doesn't work. These people don't make a calculation when they are committing these crimes. Prison should be used when a person has proved incapable of living in free society without harming others at which point they should be imprisoned until we are convinced that this risk is very low.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079295#Comment_118079295

...or maybe we need to invest significant amounts into our criminals justice system, to try reduce these outcomes, by integrating our other critical institutions and systems together, i.e. health care, education and training systems, etc etc etc

usernamegoes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079415#Comment_118079415

We need to try stop crime from happening; I'd agree with that, hence my point that prison should be a last resort. But when it is used it should be because the offender is a risk to civil society and therefore an indeterminate prison sentence is given until we are convinced they are not a risk to society.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079791#Comment_118079791

preventing crime from happening probably will never occur, its been with us since the damn of time, we need to be realistic with our goals, but we have learned an astonishing amount about the root causes of criminality over time, we just seem to be unwilling to truly do anything about it.... hence while jail is actually currently required, and probably always will be, to some degree

usernamegoes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079869#Comment_118079869

I agree that we can't stamp out crime completely, but we can address some of the causes of crime. My main point was that prison should be a last resort and when it is used it should be very very serious sentence; my view it should be indeterminate until a parole board feels you are capable of living in society without harming people.

Fandymo

We need to stop making excuses for the scum of the earth. Some people should be removed from society/the gene pool for the good of the rest of us. Fcuk their rights.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079917#Comment_118079917

the only problem with this is, the institutions and systems required to protect all from these more minor criminal acts, dont actually exist, hence our default to prisons, we re not willing to create these, as you can see from this comment.....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079964#Comment_118079964

.....

phonypony

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079295#Comment_118079295

Prison costs me, as a tax payer, far too much for this sort of carry-on. This is the sort of person a sentence of hard labour should be handed down to. Repay your debt to society rather than live a carefree life without the worry of paying for your food and board.

There's far too much focus on preserving the 'human rights' of people like this who are imprisoned. As far as I'm concerned, someone who has repeatedly kicked and punched a man in an unprovoked attack, kicked a pet dog to death and has thirty-odd other convictions recorded has forfeited his 'rights'.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079977#Comment_118079977

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118080083#Comment_118080083

....and responses such as this.......

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118080111#Comment_118080111

Maybe you should be waiting outside the prison when he's released to give him the hugs he needs to be less of a scumbag.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118080338#Comment_118080338

...and dump ignorant posts such as this one also.....

neris

36 convictions at 19 not surprising really when you read the mothers a junkie and the father who they wont name is a gangland scummer aswell whos up in court.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118079964#Comment_118079964

I am not sure why you place so much value on them/ us. There is plenty wrong with the society you seem to hold in such high esteem. But sure, euthanasia is always the answer.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118080472#Comment_118080472

I think you don't know what euthanasia means.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118080535#Comment_118080535

Oh I am trying to be polite here, because manners are very important to me.