just noticed a lot of these articles in the British media over the last few weeks https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10118013/Nightclub-spiking-victims-ordeal-left-semi-paralysed-highlights-risks-women-facing.html
While i believe "spiking" does occasionally happen, I wonder how many of these stories are people who voluntarily ingested substances but do not recall ingesting them because they were intoxicated
You have been following current affairs with the Gardai over the seven years, right? The inability to count breathalyser tests, the intentional ignoring of 999 calls, ongoing even while the investigation to the historical issue is taking - not exactly bastions of rigid procedure. What category of offence do you reckon they should have been searching for on their computers?
My own view on the prevalence of such crimes is that I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I'm certainly not going to attack and sneer at women who say they have been assaulted because their story doesn't detail what colour knickers they were wearing.
I guess that's why two thirds of women who are raped don't report matters to the Gardai
and why only a tiny percentage of those actually reported to the Gardai get to Court.
Ever think you might be making things too easy for rapists?
"had no proof, couldn't say exactly when it happened and no serious crime was committed."
There's your problem, right there. Doubt any police force in the world would launch an investigation with just that to go on.
Yes, 7 years ago.
The article in question is from yesterday, so more than 24 hours since the offence would've occurred. The simple point is such instances have been vastly over played, and you are clutching at straws, by posting articles that are 7 years old and now seemingly suggesting that the Gardai wouldn't know how to correctly categorise crimes.
Maybe you didn't, and I confused you with another poster. So, what are your views on the prevalence of such crimes?
What judgement?
It's better to have a case on file then no case at all. And a spiking is a fairly serious crime.
The article says that 10% took MORE than a week to be reported, and you're jumping to conclusions after less than 24 hours for an unusual incident that could well have been miscategorised. What categories of offences did they check for?
And btw, where did I give any view about the prevalence of spiking instances?
You've not had much dealing with the police in London. I had a much more serious offence happen to me and my friends and nothing came of that. They didn't follow it up, despite chasing it.
In this case I had no proof, couldn't say exactly when it happened and no serious crime was committed. It would be filed away and forgotten about.
But thank you for your judgement.
It doesn't matter what people presume. You should've gone to the police regardless. Happy to here your friend was there to ensure nothing more serious took place
Article is from 2014 so 7 years old, and of the 10% that took a week to be reported the majority werenot for the type of crime in question here. The Gardai have stated that no reports were made. You simply don't want to accept this as it doesn't align with your view that these spiking instances are as prevalent as is currently being made out.
When I lived in London I was on a work night out and my drink was spiked.
I wasn't drunk, I only had 2 drinks. I had moved to another bar with a good friend when I felt the effects, only way I can describe the experience is that it was like I was seeing things through a camera lens, like I was far away and couldn't act. My housemate tried to talk to me but I was blank faced, I blacked out at home and slept for 15 hours.
I didn't report it because (as you see in lots of the comments) people assume that I drank too much.
Not gonna happen, so try your luck elsewhere. Plenty of folk on this site to follow on anecdotes so you should be fine.
Someday you might look back on your sneery posts and feel some shame.
Apologies, I might have misunderstood your previous post and thought you had been present. Why assume immediately that I meant to set you up?
It is heartwarming how you feel for drugged and raped friend in the US. I am not sure why you bring it up if you cannot elaborate or discuss it.
That's quite a conclusion to jump to. I didn't say that. But one would assume an incident if this magnitude would be recorded quite promptly.
So you're confident that all incidents are recorded promptly in Pulse now?
Not getting angry and I never said I was present for her experience (which may or may not be some kind of an attempt at a "set-up" on your part). If you are surprised to learn that some people don't drink alcohol, wait til you learn that some people aren't lucky enough to be born with two fully functioning kidneys.
I do know a girl who was spiked and raped but given I was told that in confidence, I will not be elaborating further. That behaviour is particularly rife on US college campuses.
I can't believe noone has pointed out fact the article you linked is from 2014
What are you getting so angry about? Nobody claimed that this doesn't happen, but that there are lots of people who wrongly claim to have experienced this for their own reasons. Does that not anger you, given that you were present for your friend's experience?
It's a culture, I mean even today it's seen as funny in reruns of shows.
https://streamable.com/3ld6ry
If you were a potential spiker, what type of person would you be more likely to try to target? A completely sober one or one that already had a few drinks? Never mind the logistics of getting something into their drink without them noticing ... looking at the posts on here you'd have a fair idea that any attack you perpetrated would subsequently be sneerily written off by society as the victim's own fault and just their overindulgence in alcohol.
I did post earlier about a 100% teetotal girl I know who was spiked as a teenager and ended up in hospital. If you met her and she told you that story, I'd assume you'd confidently tell her that she just had too much to drink? Even though she doesn't drink and never has (for genuine medical reasons).
Longer than a week! And you're relying on the 'definitive response ' just 24 hours on a very unusual incident that could well have been miscategorised?
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So 90% are reported within a week and of those that aren't the majority are for "road offences, followed by insurance and theft". So the majority of crimes are recorded as per the protocols. You are clutching at straws.
That article states that less than 1 in ten crimes take longer than a week to be recorded. And that seems to be adversely impacted by specific garda areas..DMR South, Laois/Offaly and Mayo..
Heroin addict with drug paraphenalia gets arrested in club while selling benzos..evidence of widespread spiking!!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure that spiking has and will continue to go on in the likes of nightclubs and other late venues where public inebriation goes on. That's logical, sad but logical.
What isn't logical are these new claims that now a new breed of serial potential rapist is now going out in various countries, seemingly in numbers, simultaneously, armed with a new method of poisoning through syringes, with the capability to administer doses of drugs into peoples bloodstreams, in nightclubs, without anybody seeing this visibly intrusive, outlandish and crazy behaviour, with high numbers of witnesses and surveillance security cameras within these sort of places.
Oh wait indeed.
It's from the usual 'be proven wrong so attack the source' play book.
Yeah, what would the Garda press office know. It's not like the guards have a computer that records all the crimes that happen in the country....oh wait...
Oh so now all of this is BS is it?
Ever been in a nightclub where you've been packed in like sardines? Bump into someone?
Honestly, the amount of people here trying to discredit anybody who makes any claim is terrifying.
Same people would be the first ones to tell others to mind their drinks as well, only to not believe them later on.
Who is doing that? Also, are you going to back up your previous statements regarding the regularity of spiking or not?
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