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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,355 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It has never been explained what, other than trespass by a few idiots, it has to do with the GAA?

    The home of the Ulster football was used similarly by supporters of the H-Blocks the night before an Ulster Final. Massive H's drawn in cresote on the grass. The grounds walls are STILL spiked and barbed wired to try and prevent reoccurance.

    People use sports all the time, loads of examples. Reasonable people aren't opening threads to have cheap shots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    I'm using an example from the late 80s/ early 90s when tensions were extremely high and the communities in the north were at their most divided. You can look to Windsor Park 1993 for probably the lowest point of sports and politics mixing in Northern Ireland. You seem to be claiming that this is the norm for the GAA in 2021, which is simply not the case



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    Hi Mark.

    I posted this earlier in the thread but I think you may have missed it. It is an official statement from the club concerned.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    This being one of the many pile on threads on Boards facts that run counter to the OPs politics will be ignored at all costs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭votecounts


    Buying a poppy is donating to terrorism, unless you think the murder of Innocent Catholics is justified.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It also raises money for the lads who sauntered off to Iraq and committed war crimes.

    And then of course you have the crazed nationalistic witch hunt for anyone who doesn't wear one



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    They had a great opportunity to condemn it and they had to work hard in the wording to ensure they did not condemn it.as said before it was also factually untrue as the event did take place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    As in the Defense Forces ?

    I don't ever remember hearing of the bombing Iraq or anything similar



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    I imagine there's always a counter argument if you look hard enough.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Surely surely even you can see that Mark's claims that the club

    "has appeared to just whitewash the incident" and

    "clearly some of its members organised this"

    are at best lies and at worse libellous when read alongside the official statement from the club?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    I completely agree with the sentiment of what he is saying. The local, county and national GAA refused to condemn the use of their facilities by those who are connected to the murder of Lyra McKee. That must be pretty clear to you??

    as for members organising it. I don’t have evidence, but I would be shocked if several of those in paramilitary gear are not members of the GAA. I think we all know that.

    I saw stats that of the the people killed by republican terrorists, it is estimated that over 1,000 were killed by members of the GAA. A far greater figure than the murderers who had membership of the orange order, udr, ruc and British army combined. Your boys have a great pr machine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I'm pretty neutral (haha) on the Defense Forces in general but very happy we have an army that never goes to foreign countries to invade.

    I'm sure you have some sad big shock reveal now to catch me out about the Defense Forces otherwise you wouldn't be banging on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    And as also said before, the statement is dated 9th of September. Worth pointing out too that it clearly states the club did not grant permission for the event, because you appear to have missed that too (again). It only became "factually untrue" after the fact, when the event organisers chose to ignore the statement and turn up there without permission anyway.

    I believe the GAA is a great organisation in many ways, but its greatness doesn't extend to the ability to see the future.

    If I put up notices to say there'd be a rave in your garden next weekend, you replied with "I have not given permission for a rave. There will be no rave", and then I went ahead with it anyway, would it automatically follow that you must have in fact have been complicit in the rave in the first place? Because of your "factually untrue" statement?

    And if I and the other organisers of the rave were self-styled and intimidating "hard men" who are capable and probably willing to give you a good beating or exact some other retribution if you stood up to us, would you publicly condemn us anyway, or would you stay quiet about it for the sake of your own and/or your property's safety?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I saw stats that of the the people killed by republican terrorists, it is estimated that over 1,000 were killed by members of the GAA.

    Can you link to these stats please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,355 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The thread where mark and downcow make stuff up and hope it sticks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    I've heard of some pretty bizarre studies before, such as whether corn flakes get less soggy if you put the milk in first. But I highly doubt someone completed a dissertation on 'The Hobbies of Northern Irish Terrorists: 1969-The Present Day.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    More than 1,000 people killed by members of the GAA? Sounds pretty bad all right. I'll give him that.

    But here's one that's even worse:

    Just about all 3,500 victims of the Northern Ireland troubles were killed by people who'd watched TV in the previous week.

    The BBC and ITV must be complicit in the whole thing too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Like many things this poster spouts, it's a load of contradictory and goading nonsense anyway, something is either a statistic or an estimate, statistics can't be estimates for crying out loud!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,060 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    You think thats bad you should look at how many of the terrorists speak English.

    So I reckon based on that stat that its actually the English are at fault for this whole mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    "I saw stats that of the the people killed by republican terrorists, it is estimated that over 1,000 were killed by members of the GAA."

    Well those jerks should be turfed out of the organisation posthaste.

    What I'd like to know though is who was the statistician who came up with this "estimate"?

    It seems odd that some poindexter was not only able to identify the perpetrator of many crimes that law enforcement were unable to at the time, but this egghead was also able to gain access to all these GAA club subscription records.

    But saying all that Downcow seems like a guy who pours over these many, and I'm sure frequent, statistical studies that links murderers to their sports clubs of choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Choochtown



    I have read some ridiculous posts on these forums but this one has to be right up there with the very worse.


    ... Where to start ...

    To actually state that it must be "pretty clear" that the "local GAA refused to condemn the use of their facilities" AFTER BEING SHOWN THEIR OFFICIAL STATEMENT is bordering on trolling.

    Next up without a shred of evidence we have the poster would be "shocked" if they were not "members of the GAA" and "I think we all know that" ... again not a single shred of evidence just plain and simple ignorance and bigotry.

    Then comes the killer quote ...

    "I saw stats" ... "over 1000 were killed by members of the GAA"

    I think when you resort to this type of nonsense Downcow, you have nothing to contribute to this thread.

    It makes me sad to see such levels of prejudice against a sporting organisation simply because "them-uns" play those sports. Those views do not belong in a progressive society of the 2020s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Well that says it all. Seems you are saying that the GAA are afraid of violent republicans. A shocking admission that they can do what they like.

    it takes courage to create Change. Believe it or not, I actually would have a more positive view of the GAA than you are painting. I am confident there are many good courageous people in it - they are just clearly not the ones in control. Maybe someday they will be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Oh they absolutely have. Lots of stuff on how many orangemen done everything from murdering people to drinking a beer in public places.

    this was a ‘survey’ of a group of republican ex prisoners as to what percentage were GAA members and then they multiplied out percentage to estimate murders committed by GAA members. Hardly rocket science.

    by the way they done same with a group of ex loyalist prisoners and membership of OO was surprising low - less than 20%; their band membership was higher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Thanks uncle. My point exactly. The OO get these stats thrown at them when OO are less likely to commit murder than non OO male Protestants. Lies, damned lies and statistics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,215 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,215 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Actually opened this thread thinking it was going to be about the special Congress..

    Had I noticed the OP, I'd have not bothered.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,424 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    I don’t think I referred to it as a statistic? But you are quite right, ‘estimate’ is a much better word.

    it is estimated that over 1,000 murders were carried out by members of the GAA in the north.



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