just noticed a lot of these articles in the British media over the last few weeks https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10118013/Nightclub-spiking-victims-ordeal-left-semi-paralysed-highlights-risks-women-facing.html
While i believe "spiking" does occasionally happen, I wonder how many of these stories are people who voluntarily ingested substances but do not recall ingesting them because they were intoxicated
Do you think it would be impossible for a fella to be scummy and target and bring home a girl who is just out of it on a dozen vodkas?
If that is possible, then why not possible for the same fella to bring home a girl out of it on 2 vodkas plus a little extra she didn't even know she was drinking?
As for risk-to-reward....where is the big risk for the fella who administers it from his scummer point of view? That he doesn't get her out the door and his "investment" is wasted? It's probably far cheaper to slip her something than to buy her drinks for the night and plenty of fellas will buy drinks for the night.... He likely won't be caught in the act of putting it into her drink. If he gets her home and does what he wants to her, sure he knows plenty of people, as evidenced on here, will just blame the girl for drinking too much
I do believe spiking happens but I do believe a lot of people lose control and blame they've been spiked. In a nightclub it's gonna be nearly impossible to bring a spiked girl home or somewhere to rape her, she'll be falling all over the place and probably vomiting everywhere. I can bet there are people outthere doing it but such a high risk to reward thing to do.
i dunno, what 'level of care' is absolutely necessary. if you're going to the rounds of spiking someone would you be that worried?
I was looking it up because i thought a dose of GHB or whatever would be like a shot glass full, a proper mouthful, but its only like 1 or 2 ml, I doubt it's anywhere near as widespread as is made out, but even one incident will spread panic
Prof Measham says spiking might be happening more at this time of year because universities are in their first few weeks of term - when many people who turned 18 over lockdown are going out for the first time.
Police are also concerned over drink spiking at house parties.
"We're not sure about the scale of spiking but it's important to listen to the anxieties, the anger and to be thinking more generally how we can improve safety,"
Perhaps the perpetrators thought you weren't worth the "investment".
I know a girl who ended up in hospital having her stomach pumped when she was a teenager. She never drank (still doesn't) due to a medical condition so when she started swaying her friends immediately knew something was up.
Spiking with alcohol is very plausible and just as serious imo.
People pre-spike at home these days...
Agree. Definately possible. But highly inprobable. . Pinprick with tiny needle into skin a highly inefficient way to introduce sedatives. Ricin yes. Other things no
Or the pinmarks could be pinmarks. Bit of a coincidence to have a pinmark and to be blacked out.
Why the insistence on it not being possible?
One of the doubters said "Just because it happens doesn’t mean you don’t get tools making it up as an excuse or for attention" - even acknowledging it happens.
No we have had this hysteria in non covid times too
there seems to be a major media campaign against the re'opening of nightclubs...these are articles appearing in the media at this time are no coincidence. people need to open their eyes at this stage. its not paranoia. its blatant fear mongering...to stop the youth going to clubs and spreading the covid virus.
Twas' a bad keg more likely
Seems to be a lot of coverage locally in Derry of 'spiking' going on.
I always wondered practically how easy or difficult it actually is to do? Is it a tablet or a liquid added to drinks? If its a tablet, surely it would need time to dissolve and might be spotted?
I too think the vast majority of people claiming their drink was spiked just drank too much/too some drug that didn't agree with them, and are looking for an excuse to cover themselves.
Spiking by injection is a completely new thing to me, never heard that one before. If that is proven to be happening, then it definitely is a sinister turn. You'd need to be a determined kinda weirdo to go out on the town carrying a syringe filled with whatever, and be prepared to take the risk of trying to inject someone with it, hoping its not noticed.
Or Twas a bad pint!
I would hope my daughters wouldn't jump to conclusions without evidence and wouldn't jump to conclusions based on hysteria.. The " pinmarks " show could have been inflicted by anything small and sharp, such as pins in new clothing, insect bites(without reaction), small splinter on a surface etc
Seriously a night out, blacking out, mysterious injuries sustained.. We have all been there.
I remember it too but there weren't needle marks.
I remember being young and making a show on a Saturday night....the company line was always "I must of been spiked".
From the lack of evidence it appears to be alcohol in the vast majority of cases. But the actual new superdrug is certainly intriguing.
Never happened to you, so therefore it never happens.
Typical lazy tropes.
The amount of people that I no saying they got spiked ' I was never like that after 15 vodkas'
Have been leaving my drink lying about looking for the mystical free drugs for years, never happened
and what would they be injecting them with, do we know?
You're basing that on what now?
Yes, folk that young can think their drink was spiked when they just drank too much. I thought it myself once when I was 22 - it was definitely just too much drink/smoke though - so I'm not denying that possibility.
But if these girls are finding needle marks, let's cut them some slack instead of defaulting to the standard "women just looking for attention" trope.
Go on, be different! 😊
They're the very same folk who'd be all grizzly bear dad if they had.
I really hope nobody immediately dismissing the claims have daughters.
Those poor girls face an awful upbringing.
I have. "It looks like..."is your speculation. Let's wait on the investigating officers supply evidence rather than randomer speculation.
read the article and the quote i gave. it looks like in the course of the investigation they uncovered a crime unrelated to any of the allegations.. I bet when and if charges are brought it will be about drug possession only
I suppose a randomer posting on an Irish website has greater insight than the investigating police who were acting on information supplied to them.
Headline says one thing.. goes through all the ones that made reports then the important bit , "Police said the arrests were not linked to a specific report by an individual of an alleged spiking by needle, or contamination of a drink." It seems in part of their investigation of dozen of complaints, none were linked to the two arrested. i.e lots of hysterical false complaints
2 arrested in Nottingham
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-59011522
Spiking has been around for years. Like a poster said earlier I would never have left a drink unattended in case some sick f**k got their kicks out of slipping something into it.
Anyone caught interfering with someone's drink or jabbing them with a needle, jesus how sick and twisted do you need to be to do that, should face a jail sentence.
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