I gave you the homeless number, more than doubled in the time SF led DCC.
Also the DCC outstanding rent when up to 33m during their reign
You can Google “SF block housing development” and find the extensive list of houses all over Dublin that SF have blocked.
SF are blocking houses to make the issue worse in the hope nobody notices and they get voted into government.
As I said before that not working as even Waterford Whispers made a joke about SF and blocking developments.
Heard Cullinane on MI this am and memories were stirred as he used the word ‘modalities’.
A word which Mr G Adams seemed to favour back in the day in interviews.
Used it very very consistently. I have t heard it for yonks till this a.m.
Must be part of the Connolly House pamphlet for interview technique to seem informed but in reality saying nothing.
Nothing wrong,but ….let’s say…. more than a coincidence and brings back the memories
Oh dear God, a politician used a word another politician used before - it's all part of the great grammatical conspiracy theory of Sinn Fein to take over the state, and subconsciously get us communicating via shinner tongue.
I'm not even a Sinn Fein voter (though I'll admit to being firmly in the "undecided" camp), but of all things to show some angst at, this is surely low level, bottom of the barrel stuff, used with a mix of desperation and sillyness.
I didn't think the thread could descend to any lower levels of absurdity, but this poster has raised (or lowered?) the bar.
As we say in the ‘ higher echelons’ it’s the little things that count.
One has to notice the links Bee, be aware of the small signs, put two and two together like.
Stay ahead of the posse like………
Do you speak for him?
He claimed SF caused the housing crisis in Dublin because they'd the most seats of any party for a term, in the midst of a national housing crisis.
You seem to agree that that's bullcrap?
I fully support SF/SD/Lab/PBP blocking unsuitable builds. I know it's a SF thread but why give SF all the credit like they are the only party?
I know they and others block unsuitable housing developments. How worse would the FG/FF crisis be if they hadn't?
Did no other borough suffer the same problems during that period? Has homelessness or the housing crisis gotten worse or better since they had the most seats? You are throwing mud pies to see what will stick.
As I said, you want a perfect solution. But a perfect solution doesnt exist. So while SF and others talk endlessly about perfect solutions homelessness goes up, like it has in the North.
Put simply the idea that SF is going to 'solve' the housing issues in Ireland is akin to the biggest lie perpetuated in Ireland since the days of the RCC having power.
Do I? I don't think so. You don't seem to follow politics very much. I've never seen any party state they've the perfect solution for anything, (not since Enda Kenny claimed he'd put an end to cronyism and the scandal of hospital trolleys, having failed miserably, if he even tried).
Yeah, you'd be correct if you weren't lying I suppose. I'll support any party that doesn't make it worse at this point.
Yet you repeat the same old talking points about housing and reject any of the numbers of improved measures brought forward by this government in their housing plan. In fact, you have been schooled on it, but revert to the same 2 old talking points as a backup clause.
Same auld bull that Doherty and O’Broin keep pumping out……..
Good to see some progress being made into the savage torture and murder of young Paul Quinn. The protection of sociopathic thugs just because they are ‘Good Republicans’ has to stop. This family deserve justice. Senior SF politicians can make that happen.
https://twitter.com/SuzyJourno/status/1450581627621593093?s=20
What progress has been made?
To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with the rest of your post....but a Twitter post from a BelTel journalist isn't really progress (to remain clear, I would like to see progress).
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1020/1254726-paul-quinn-murder/
Great to see, that wasn't at all clear to me from the initially linked tweet.
You've no idea or are lying.
You are jumping from one claim to another.
We are agreed you were waffling as regards SF claiming 'solving' any of the FF/FG crises.
Schooled? You mean you dodging them following the failed model they had over in London and continuing to use the private market?
If they continue making matters worse in the same manner, the same talking points are relevant.
More bad idea, crisis worsening builds should be blocked.
and housing experts and PBP and social Democrats and Labour....
What link is there to Sinn Fein? Using the Quinn family for points. Must be an election in the wind.
Hopefully the family get some closure and aren't being used again.
This will explain the link to Sinn Fein
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/who-was-paul-quinn-and-why-has-his-murder-become-an-election-issue-1.4162636
So the same link that Fianna Fail have.
A minister in the party said he was engaged in criminality.
The headline explains it all.
Who was Paul Quinn and why has his murder become an election issue?
This is the Sinn Fein thread so that why shared here I expect. Conor Murphy made accusations and never apologised for them till he was forced to by the media
I guess it became an election and issue when Mary Lou lied on live TV.
More extensive timeline with details of the FF link and the clarification of comments in 2007.
https://www.thejournal.ie/paul-quinn-sinn-fein-conor-murphy-4994057-Feb2020/
Two lies.
First Mary Lou was mislead, she didn't invent the denial on the spot.
Second. Mary Lou didn't raise the topic of Paul Quinn's murder. It was already being used by the FF/FG party.
Murphy retracted due to the same pressure Bertie Ahern did.
If we find out Quinn was involved in criminality will FF/FG stop using his family I wonder? Seems odd to me they won't disclose that.
If you say so. The reason it was part of the discussions was because of Conor Murphy comments and refusal to apologise.
In the end without FF/FG bringing this subject to light
1.Conor Murphy would never have apologised
2.It brought the case back into media spotlight and we now today are seeing the benefits of that
We should ask the family what they think about the spot light been brought on the case
Just in time for the election. Happy coincidence?
I agree, it's terrible that the family need to rely on opportunistic politicians to have any chance of justice.
I hope they catch those responsible.
Not now he ain't. Wonder has there been any developments on this one blanchey, or has he still not made his complaint or had the record of the dail altered ? 😛
Ah, like clockwork you revert to type and bring up one point in the overall housing plan as a way to throw the whole thing out. See what you have done there?
So, the shared equity thing, I don't agree with it and it's in the plan.
In your world that means the entire plan, hundreds of pages worth of a housing policy is thrown out and is no good because of that one thing.
Again, letting the perfect get in the way of the good.
You are welcome. :)
What's the good points of the housing plan?
So SF never claimed they'd 'solve' housing. Moving swiftly along I see.
You keep peddling the lie that I expect any party to solve or fix all the FF/FG problems or make things perfect, so then you can crow on about how unlikely that is like it wasn't you made it up.
I have to hold my hand up. You got me good. I do revert back to talking about what I don't like about the housing strategy when pointing out what I don't like about the housing strategy. You got me bang to rights. Good man 😥
As regards the part of the plan you don't like, does that make you part shinner? That's the accusation critics usually get around these parts.
Can we talk about what you like about it, (school me) and what you think SF will do different or wrong regarding housing?
I don’t think that any Party can sort the housing issue. It’s more a societal issue. Some People believe that they are entitled to a home provided by the State rather than sourcing and funding it for themselves. Until this attude changes, we’ll have people living in hubs and hotels/B&Bs.
SF NI trying to pander to the Aontu wing again?
How big a problem do you think people thinking the state owes them a house is? Seems to me the problem is a lot people not being able to buy or rent. How do you account for the working people who don't qualify for a 'free house' but end up homeless or couch surfing? Before the crash and following austerity came in, hotel use for emergency accommodation was a rarity, now it's part of the system. That's poor governing, not an attitude problem. Do you thing ten or twenty years ago we had nobody thinking the state owed them?
Do you honestly believe if everyone changed there attitude we'd have little to no problems?
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