Ah yea, but sure it's something he's half remembered after seeing it on some bitchute video. That's as good as any evidence.
People are coming onto this forum with patently false views, e.g. that space travel isn't real. Okay, but instead of acknowledging their belief might be weak, that it's just a wild opinion, or that they can't really support it, or even accepting explanations from other posters - we often see the complete opposite, they assert it as fact, scoff at patient explanations, blame the questions, blame anyone who asks a question, blame the mods, blame the forum, act the victim, etc.
Right, but the issue is always the false belief itself.
It's a CT forum, people are free to post their theories here, people are free to challenge them, basic discussion and free speech. But posters having meltdowns and tantrums because someone challenged their really shaky view is petulant childish behavior, stop making excuses for it.
This is turning into the ‘revert the charter to create a safe space’ thread part II.
UK here
that's just a blatant lie about England :-D :-D
the most I've ever been asked to present over here is a lateral flow test result
Which is hardly the most tricky restriction to work around, and the checks amount to you waving a random bit of paper or the screen of your phone in front of a very bored looking "security" person who just wants to get out of there and doesn't care one jot what it actually says on the bit of paper or your phone screen.
Well those poorly paid randos are going to be the front line of the totalitarian take over when they make covid certs permanent...
Or if you're mad sketch about the government, most will allow you do the test in front of them, and check it 15 mins later.... no apps, no logging results, easy
And we were so close to someone presenting a coherent theory too... Only took 250 pages...
Yup
Ok so where is your source stating elimination of Covid 19 is possible through vaccination? That’s what you said.
China did it following the Wuhan wave by implementing unthinkable restrictions on their population, however data from China isn’t exactly reliable so we don’t know the true number of cases, deaths or even the current situation there to a great degree.
What I do know is that China have a Covid pass & also a social credit system. Is that what you’re stating is ok to implement in Ireland in order to ‘eliminate’ Covid?
even a little knowledge on this stuff will go a long way towards your understanding
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Not as dangerous as no knowledge mind.
Thanks for mis-quoting me, seen as we were discussing Israel in regards to total population vaccination, which is the route Israel are going because they want to have a functioning country and don't want to do lockdowns or social distancing.... the alternative is vaccination
Europe as mentioned has a "we'll accept some cases once it doesn't over load our hospitals" approach
I find the Europe approach the more pragmatic, before you try and steer the discussion off in a misconstrued manner any further
But, as mentioned, it's a bit of a futile program in Israel if international travel is still allowed....
Studies aren't that hard to find, but seen as you're incapable of using google:
The impact of travel and timing in eliminating COVID-19 | Communications Physics (nature.com)
Defining covid-19 elimination | The BMJ
There are plenty others.
I agree, China aren't reliable, but their tactics have been studied and papers written on them, these studies are internationally peer reviewed, which unfortunately is part of that scientific proof that you don't like seeing. I never said I agreed with it, I just mentioned it is in existence, which you claimed it wasn't.
Which you seem to have anchored onto at the end of your comment, trying to allude to a suggestion that this course of action is something I think should be done... sorry, no gotcha moment this time...
I think Ireland should fix their shitbox health service to allow any surge in COVID cases to be absorbed and not turn into a crisis.
For a vaccine oriented eradication approach, Ireland would need to severely restrict international travel, which isn't going to happen
You, and about 6 or 7 others who "frequent" the forum have proven to be incapable of mature and civil discussion. Why would you expect anyone to engage with people who clearly are here to frustrate, derail and stifle debate?
People are not avoiding anyone's questions, they are simply refusing to have a discussion with others who's online conduct has proven time and time again to be disgraceful and people who I find personally to be despicable to say the least.
Lol more whinging. Yet, when people look at your posts we see that when you first appeared you demanded a long list of questions in regards to your theory that all spaceflight is faked.
You received answers to every single one of your points.
You answered nothing.
And by the end of that thread, you faked your own picture to support your conspiracy theory and it blew up in your face.
Everything you are falsely accusing people of, you have done.
why the scare quotes around frequent? do you know what scare quotes mean?
The quotes mean I'm using the term loosely. We've seen nothing short of shift work to ensure the forum has been monitored intensely around the clock...
how do you live with that kind of paranoia?
What? I'm not the one monitoring the forum beyond what would be expected from a full time job.
you're just pissed that the forum isn't the free for all for nonsense that you want.
You misunderstood my post. I should have separated the two paragraphs. I'm saying England is a democracy. Sweden, Norway and England. Three examples of democracies.
I'm not saying that you have to show your papers in England.
This is a nonsense Markus and you know it, I asked you the most simple basic question (show us, roughly, what you think the earth looks like) on the mars thread and you ignored it and refused to answer it,
If you can't answer the very very basic stuff, you have no right to be scoffing at others and playing the victim, you are most definitely the problem in this case.
Anyway, back to topic, @Gortanna , @CruelSummer , if the COVID cases dropped to 0 and/or the hospital/ICU visits dropped to 0, do you also agree that the COVID cert and mask mandates would be dropped?
Complete BS
You came into a thread making assertions. You ignored basic questions (after claiming you were more than happy to receive questions), you didn't support your claims at all, you scoffed at facts, you started accusing posters of being trolls or part of a "troll" group when they asked the most basic of questions (as you are doing now), you made countless insults towards other posters, you've have continued to play the victim, tried to change the charter, were caught manipulating a photo, then lied about it
It's all right there in the thread for anyone to read - https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058161764/we-landed-on-mars-again-mod-note-post-1/p9
Do you have any views as to what measures will be permanent or why related to this thread? Or are you just going to use these threads to feed your bizarre persecution complex?
Lol.
What do you mean by "shift work."
Who is on which shift?
They should be, but I can't say for definite they would be. And how would either ever drop to 0?
Spain are keeping mandatory mask wearing in place for at least another 6 months because of flu: plaforscience on Twitter: "This a SCANDALOUS GameChanger: Spain's Health Minister declaring we are keeping masks TO CONTROL FLU: "Masks are here to stay, at least as long we have INFLUENZA, or OTHER autumn viruses" So, Authoritarian Control is now because of flu? Forever? https://t.co/kxDrf8p8Nf" / Twitter
I want to be very clear that I won't work weekend shifts, even for the double pay on offer. Though I may accept being on-call for emergencies at the weekend if the remuneration is right.
****, I meant to post that in our private chat and I can't delete it.
We'll add the use of scare quotes to the listing of internet terms and memes, and basic knowledge of certain English words that conspiracy theorists don't understand and/ or don't know how to use correctly.
Anyway, your conspiracy around the sceptics on this forum being in some sort of organised group in order to disrupt things must be something that you can put together some evidence for? Can you show who is working what shift, how the posters are working together, are there multiple user names who you propose are actually the same person, is it all just one person that is posting the questions for you.
Get your evidence together and present it. The evidence would be found in this thread if it exists, so do your analysis and research on the conspiracy and show your work. Really quite simple, and that is all that is being asked of any conspiracy theorist to do for any other theory they might present.
Show us who is working what shift and why you believe this, rather than just throwing out random ideas into the ether in the hope of distracting attention.
How much are you guys getting paid? We should form a union.
But why wouldn't they?
Why do you believe making masks permenant benefits them?
You keep running away from this question because I think you can't provide a rational reason.
Well my opinion looking at the summer gone by is there will never be a number zero with Covid, never be zero in hospital, and it’s going to be difficult to live with it. Focusing solely on access for vaccinated people without acknowledging that they can also spread the virus is foolish. I use antigen quite a bit. It should be used on a widespread basis.
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