you're correct my apologies.
While some drug angle isn't unreasonable in this murder, leaving a dead body, attracting police scrutiny and national attention to a critical point in the smuggling chain wouldn't seem to be in keeping with the way business is done.
That might indicate a more mundane motive.
I don't think so. First of all, the killer would not have been paid if he killed the wrong person, and would later on have tried to kill the intended target in order to get paid for the job. He would also not have been so dumb to mistake a woman for a man and vice versa. If the killer was only at the wrong house, than the real victim could only have been Shirley, and that one I don't find plausible at all.
The killer wanted to kill Sophie not anybody else. The killer also knew that he wasn't at the wrong house.
The only thing is that they stayed put. Would they not have run if that was the case? The killer would have known soon enough afterwards that it was the wrong house and might try again.
The thing is, that the drug business is highly profitable and the methods of business are ruthless. It's not impossible what you're describing here but it sure is one of the top motives.
Go to the homepage of the news archive and there is a search box where you can choose the newspaper, the year range and the keywords you want to search for. You can then see the headlines but can't click into the articles though
The Prime Time special this week on organised crime gangs and the lengths they go to to get drugs into Europe was quite an eye-opener, who knows what was going on in the area or what was being smuggled into the country that night. Someone could have been meeting a boat in the area for a collection then takes a wrong turn or two on the way out and ends up at the house and things take a turn for the worst.
I'm not trying to introduce some crazy conspiracy theory into the discussion but the complete lack of evidence makes it hard to rule anything out really.
Could it have been a case of mistaken identity? Drug smugglers figure that Alfie may be a drug agency plant due to his American background. Send someone around to the house to send a message, a really messy one. Get the wrong house?
how? can you link? i don't think you can search archives without a sub.The southern star archive goes to irish news archives which need sub Southern Star (irishnewsarchive.com)
And rightly so, many reasons to call them out especially in relation to the case but one of the reasons why I've defended Bailey is because he's had his reputation destroyed without proper proof and plenty or rumor. I haven't destroyed anyone's reputation & don't intend to either unless there is very good reason to. And the gards investigation deserves to be torn apart in this investigation, they destroyed key pieces of evidence, bribed witnesses to give false statements, fabricated statements, & engaged in a local campaign to ruin a mans life without a shred of hard evidence.
People are going a bit further than just alleging though & thats all I'm going to say on the matter
The lack of an AC-12 is half the reason the Gardai is the way it is 😂
Not been a great few weeks for the guards first five caught working for Dublins favourite cartel then misclassifying 999 emergency calls to avoid paperwork. No need to slander them when they are doing it themselves. Only one man for the job.
Jim, you've been calling the Gaurds out for weeks here, being done for slander doesn't seem to be one of your worries.
The screenshot of the death notice has already been posted, not that it means anything, but you're right, if the info is authentic let's see it. Someone said it's true doesn't really cut it unfortunately.
To say someone allegedly did something isn't slander. nor can you be done for defamation.
Your saying that it is alleged they did something. Not they actually did it. So pointless argument your making. I half expect Jim plans on lifting the lid on the JOD story in season two. I couldn't see him getting involved unless there was a chance to really set the record straight.
@ScoobySna what can you tell us about these people and their intentions. Who's working on it and why?
How would posting say a screenshot of a local newspaper obit of this guy (which let's face it is unlikely to contain the kind of juicy details that people who want to link him to this case are looking for) be worse in that regard than the unsubstantiated claims that are already being thrown around about him in this thread?
Sorry in triplicate. Can't seem to delete them either...
Yah & risk the possibility of being done for slander, defamation of character especially of a former gard, I dont think so
Well, it's 3 more times than any relevant answer to his question.
There was some sort of boards crash. Am seeing duplicate posts on many threads.
any more times you want to say it??
Well if someone on here has done this it would be very helpful if they would put up a link or a screenshot or something that would at least confirm this guy's existence. Because right now all those of us not 'in the know' have to go on is a Gemma O'Doherty article.
You can search for articles without a subscription
People do know all this stuff and have verified relevant things.
One of the claims made here for example is that John O' Donnell died on 9/09/01 so we should be able to substantiate that claim.
Registration Of Births Deaths & Marriages is public and I think is in the HSE office, used to be anyway. I am not sure if you are allowed search yourself or have to give them the name. You would probably have to go to the office in Bantry as far as I know. I may be wrong
You have to have a subscription. It may be possible to access it in a library, if they are open for that
Search the Southern Star on the Irish newspaper archives
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