In your opinion what do you think Y will be?
I don’t believe that was the goal of them either. But I don’t underestimate the capacity of people to take advantage of a situation. Something along the lines of…”hey they accepted X measures for covid, let’s see if they will accept Y”
Here's a piece of advice if you don't want threads closed due to nonsense....don't post nonsense...at least not without facts to back it up...but then it's not nonsense.
Discussion is a two way thing and if your posting style is the same in other forums then I can see why they might be closed. You regularly post stuff that is at best your own your own take on articles which you think are going to change the future but in reality aren't going to change the world much. If you provided any sort of evidence to what you allude to then you would be taken seriously but you don't.
This works both ways. What questions would you like me to answer? Answer my questions and I'll do my best to answer yours.
Another lockdown is just a distraction from what's coming. Food and fuel shortages, price of gas and electric, homelessness, mental health etc. Locking down or not ending restrictions is fûcking pointless and even the hardcore nhpet/gov lovers can't even disagree.
What are you gonna do about it, bend over again?
Winter will be fun. Stock up folks.
You are claiming a plan exists to restrict the population of Ireland/ the world/ some other countries yet to be defined, for reasons that you can't provide other than suggestions that it's for some nefarious reasons, and that it will be permanent/ not permanent/ permanent but not forever, and this is something to do with climate change/ another pandemic due next year/ the lizard people.
It absolutely belongs in the conspiracy theory forum.
Again the idea behind the thread is that there is a global effort to impose all covid measures permanently for reasons other than dealing with covid
This is obviously a conspiracy theory.
It absolutely belongs here along with claims of magnetic vaccines and faked space missions. It's the same kind of childish worldview.
Lol it's hilarious that you're accusing someone of this.
You have done nothing but ignore questions.
The reason why your claims aren't permitted in other forums is that you are proposing silly conspiracy theories. These have no place is actual discussion.
You know this as you've demonstrated that you are aware that your theories are false and ridiculous.
Trying to spin this as some kind of oppression is both dishonest and embarassing.
Any attempt at discussing it on other fora results in a threadban.
And I don't care about any so-called ridicule. There was an either thread (closed, of course) about the many problems with this forum. That's why I wish this thread wasn't here.
You didn't answer any of my questions.
That masks and vax passports will be permanent? It certainly is a theory, one you can't explain at all.
How does saying 'natural immunity is being ignored' mean 'I am advocating for a natural immunity approach'? I said that the Swedish approach was proportionate.
As brianhere said, it was a management decision to place this thread here. It certainly doesn't belong here. It's not a conspiracy theory.
Exactly how I feel every time I come across your attempted glorification of Tegnell and his cohorts strategy of herd immunity on yet another thread, plus your still belief in it when even Tegnell himself no longer does, knowing that when challenged you will yet again run away only to pop up somewhere else with your nonsense.
On the plus side, with you now spouting it on a conspiracy thread, it looks as if you are running out of road.
You're not seeing these things the way most people see them. Most people don't automatically jump to conspiracy theory mode when they hear the terms you have mentioned.
You seem to believe there is some conspiracy theory around the world economic forum. Can you explain this and what powers you think the WEF has?
There are literally thousands of articles that completely tear apart any of your conspiracy theories but yet you drift(or grift?) towards the ones that push the conspiracy angle. Why is this? Are you a suspicious person in general?
What's your evidence that the same response would have worked in Ireland as well as it did bearing in my the differences in the way people live their lives in those countries and the state of their health care system compared to ours.
If it is not a conspiracy theory what is it and why don't you discuss on a different forum? My guess is you know you'll get ridiculed even more than here. Maybe open a thread in the economics forum and see how many agree with your beliefs.
Again asking vague questions that your yourself can't actually answer instead of directly outlining your actual beliefs.
And all while you dodge and ignore questions asked of you.
Pure hypocrisy and dishonesty.
That's all there is to most conspiracy theories.
what’s that got to do with masks?
Then why is most of the world using WEF-speak? 'new normal', 'build back better' etc. Why did Justin Trudeau call for a 'reset' last year? (LILLEY: Trudeau has eyes set on a great reset for Canada | Toronto Sun) Why is there a thing called The Going Direct Reset? 2020 Annual Wrap Up: The Going Direct Reset — The Central Bankers Make Their Move with John Titus – Solari Report
No grifters from YouTube. I rarely watch YouTube and don't use Facebook. I don't believe things from Facebook.
Christina Figueres works for the UN. The WHO is a agency of the UN. The head of WHO said that the climate curve had to be flattened. (He also decided for the world that life would never return to normal: WHO warns there's no going back to 'old normal' as coronavirus accelerates in three countries (cnbc.com))
How can Christina Figueres' intentional transformation of the economy work if the old is still in place? How can Klaus Schwab's entirely new foundations be built if the old ones are in place? Would you say something like a lockdown would be a way to dismantle the old foundations?
A proportionate response would have been the Swedish response, or the Norwegian response, since a lot of people have a problem with the Swedish approach. They always compare it with its neighbours, but never compare it with countries in Europe that fared far worse than it.
And it's not meant to be conspiracy talk. It's not a conspiracy theory.
How are some people in here not completely embarrassed by their ignorance?
NPHET specifically exists to deal with covid, why are you misrepresenting its purpose?
Seriously, get yourself a dictionary. Or aks Google to show you the definition of these words. You don't know what you are saying and the word "permanent" seems to change its meaning for you every 5 minutes.
But you can't give us a single answer why? Surely someone with such a vivid imagination like yourself should be able to come up with something. We've waited all this time so no hurry...take your time but just try to come up with it before we end up like all those people in Denmark with no restrictions which if you come back to the real world for a while you'll see is getting closer even if there are some hiccups along the way.
No, not permanent based on what you said.
Lol. The fact that you believe that it's a global conspiracy doesn't make it more believable.
I actually think you are getting the HSE and NPHET mixed up. This shouldn't need to be explained to you.
Don't forget to chase him down on the "why" question as well. He dodged it completely from your post.
But I said that don't believe that the measures will be permanent in Ireland only.
That's more like it. At least now you are back to proper conspiracy talk.
Most of the world has never heard or Klaus Schwab and have no interest in what he has to say. I doubt you had ever heard of him before the beginning of 2020 either but have now been sucked into some twist on what he has to say because of some grifter on YouTube.
In regards to the UN's climate official I would think the clue is in her job title..."climate". She probably has very little knowledge of how economies work but a wealth of knowledge on how industrial activity affects climate but yet again you're reading more into than you need to because of some guy on YouTube. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and explain why I'm wrong in your own words rather than some regurgitated nonsense you've heard from someone looking for a monthly donation to share this "knowledge" with you.
In your expert opinion please tells us what a proportionate response to the covid pandemic would have been....with evidence that it would have worked and not unproven "scientific " information from someone on YouTube or Facebook who you think is right because they have Dr or Professor in front of their name but their field of expertise has very little to do with airborne respiratory illness that are easily transmisable from person to person?
Nope, but trying to link what is said at the WEF to a conspiracy theory to make the people of Ireland, and only Ireland, permanently wear masks in shops, or permanently until it's no longer permanent, is cow dung.
Yes. When things end, they are not permanent. That's what the word means.
Again, it's very orwellian of you guys to keep trying to redefine words as their opposite to support your anti-reality beliefs.
But let me guess, you've never read that either...
Once again, you're twisting what I said. It was claimed that NPHET care about health. I argue that all they care about is covid. If they cared about health then they wouldn't have advised that all of the healthy places close while all of the unhealthy places stay open.
You can't pretend it isn't happening all you want, but that doesn't mean it isn't.
What who posted?
Gortana's post? My interpretation is that it's more dishonest misrepresentation and waffle to deflect from the questions he's afraid of.
What about the questions you've been asked?
Why are you dodging them?
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