Certainly, the political system will rush to your side if you do.
I know that El Presidente's letter was just the usual "me piles are bleeding for you" fob off, but it would be nice not see him give succour to a campaign that thrives on some of the worst tendencies in public life.
Just to be clear, the Irish Times put that baloney on their front page.
Mob rule it is.
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Detached housing and one off builds are not the same thing. A housing estate of 200 detached houses would be counted under one, but not under the other. The point was about one off housing with it's own sewage system etc, not detached housing. And again, the point is completely irrelevant anyway.
As said above, if it's so small, there is no need to give it to the claimants - sure it would barely pay for their petrol down to Dublin.
And why was anyone complaining about the price of the children's hospital adjust- a mere pittance it's costing, why not build one in each county.
Some tripe there alright. What on earth is MDH doing with that letter? He should stick to the poetry and stay out of government matters.
If you were given the opportunity to trade in your 40 year old house for a fully up to date NZEB house for free, the design of which you control, are you suggesting you wouldn't take it?
You'd want your head examined if you turned that down. The question is, who pays for it though?
I could do that right now by selling it for more than I bought it for.
I'm not out here expecting the government to foot my refurbishment bills for decisions a builder made back then.
Absolutely hilarious stuff altogether.
The way you posed the question is also hilarious on no metric should or would that ever happen.
I don't like to read posts by people accusing others of having no knowledge on a particular topic when they themselves are not learned in that regard.
As for my own house, no, it doesn't have mica. I'm merely a supporter of those people whose houses are affected.
I know of one reason why you wont get compo.
Confirmed ... no mica. I dont know how many houses are in the category you refer to.
I am curious as to what this waiver is though.
Awaits smart answer because you've a raft of them so far. Seems to be a fortay all smart answers zero compromise or awareness..
The extra money for the children’s hospital is being paid with minor fuss. Our corporate tax rate has just been scrapped with close to no resistance. All these things take is minor pressure on a couple of our gombeen politicians. Nice calm protests achieve nothing.
Lol. What do you do? Leave the hospital now unfinished. Absolute whataboutery.
Do a quick search, there's a few sites out there with details, selfbuild.ie is one of them, let us know how you get on or if you're pretending not to know in some sort of "gotcha" moment instead.
Should those who opted out of getting their house certified also get redress? (given one of the aims of the scheme was to identify faulty blocks due to the pyrite issues).
I have no interest in searching for any of that. Knock yourself out though.
And the question being asked?
It's being paid "with minor fuss" because the state is liable for it under the contract. The state has no liability for the mica issue - why are we paying anything at all?
"Minor pressure" on "scrapping"? i.e. raising the corporation tax rate? Ireland was left on the side of Kenya, Sri Lanka and 1 or 2 other countries against everyone else.
Plus your point seems to be " ah sure what's another €3.2 billion for the tax payer they are good for it".
Can someone tell me where the figure of 3.4 billion is coming from.
My point is escalating the protests has more chance of working. Our politicians have shown that they will agree to anything if they are put under relatively minor pressure.
We all understand your point, just as we all understand the previous poster has refuted your point as being illustrated by those two examples. It wasn't minor pressure. One involved the threat of very costly legal action (and, as exhaustively discussed, Mica property owners have no legal case against the State), the other involved us opposing almost every other country in the world before we compromised.
That said, I'd agree this mica campaign is senseless enough for the political system to hold the taxpayer down as Paddy gives us one from behind, giving his Mrs a well-deserved night off.
Classy post... Crude vulgar comments like that should have no place in the politics forum but I'll let mods decide that.
Ultimately I think there will be government support for homeowners affected and I there will be public support for this. Every homeowner in the country knows it is only by luck they're not affected in the same way
It may not be 100 % redress but there will be help given.
I'm genuinely not sure , I'd say more focussed protests not escalations, I personally think (I'm not directly affected but support redress) that last Fridays antics did more harm than good and Paddy Diver is not I believe helping the cause at all.
My sense re political pressure is Government as a whole are watching, looking at public reactions, sentiment etc, the one thing that might concern them is local political ramifications, ousting local party TD'S etc, I actually thought it extraordinary the Boo's thrown at Charlie McConalogue, I don't know the man but it seems he's on the side of the protesters, if he can be treated this way, government parties might just decide, damned if you do, damned if you don't so to speak .
Good post. My sentiments exactly.
I think Paddy Diver is the right man at the right time. If it wasn't for him, we might think there was more to this than people just demanding that someone else take on a cost they are facing. We'd be thinking there's some deeper issue at stake.
For instance, there's some university professor reported as saying on Tubridy that they don't want 100% redress, they [b]need[/b] 100% redress.
Like, what? He physically can't cover even 5% of the cost? Or 2%? Or 1%?
It wouldn't make sense, unless you'd that refreshing plain demand that someone, anyone, else should pay 100% of the cost because it's better for Paddy that way.
I had to laugh at the "earnestness" of the college lecturer. The fact that he could say with a straight face that 100% was needed for everyone was a rather unfunny joke. There are many impacted here that have good incomes and can afford to contribute. And they should.
What way does this work?
Do the people still have to pay the bank their mortgage after the houses get rebuilt?
Yes. They still have to pay their mortgage, LPT (until recently), everything. They are on the hook for houses which are unsellable, and soon to be uninhabitable.
My initial thought in this situation was that redress no problem with a reasonable cap and main residence only. But with the actions and opinions of some people on and off this forum I am now of the opinion they should hand the keys into the bank and apply for a rebuilding Ireland home loan. There are plenty of people in similar situations with no mica blocks.
So if they get let's say 350k from the government what way does it work?
Do they spend the money to get the houses built and still keep paying their mortgage to the bank???
Seems the banks get bailed out again when they also entered into a contract which they should have been more careful with.
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