"The only speeding car witnessed near Toormore that morning was being driven by Ian Bailey in the direction of Sophie's house. This occurred sometime before news of the murder became widespread"
Who witnessed this in the morning?
"somebody had recorded showing Bailey crossing a police barrier and walking up the drive toward the house. This was a live crime scene!
Was the police barrier tape still visible in this "footage"?
Or you could word it like:
"presumably the family of this man know what he did"
So, maybe they do. In that case they need to come forward don't they
Presumably the family of this JOD know about the rumours? If it was your family member being talked about within the local Community wouldn't you want the rumours quashed? Or maybe he doesn't have family still living in the area?
I presume because of that close knit community mindset? I’d say fear too. It is an open secret in bantry, I heard that IB has had people coming up to him over the years at the market and telling him things.
I suppose if you assume at least a few Gards covered up for one of their own, then are modern day Gards any better? I’d hope so but who knows…maybe people thought if they made a statement or something it wouldn’t achieve much.
The detective of interest, who 2nd or 3rd or 4th hand information says gave a deathbed confession.
And who is "JOD" ?
Regarding a deathbed confession I am only aware of the German musician who apparently confessed that he "did something terrible" to a friend of his.
Other confessions are not known to me.
The better question is if Mr. Detective confessed why are people still protecting the secret?
He chose to unburden himself on his deathbed presumably to ask for mercy/forgiveness. The same way he had shown mercy to STD family by sharing the truth. If I was his family I'd be aware I'm denying him his dying wish.
They should make the information public and put it on the record. Let someone else decide on the validity.
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Two straight questions:
1) Is the now deceased Guard from Bantry known by name?
2) Of those who know the name, are they even scared in this forum to name that name?
3) And if the name is known and they are scared to name them in this forum, can I ask to send me a PM?
Call it nonsence if you want. These are the words of Jules and Ian themselves. They both admit he was a different person with whiskey in him. He couldn't handle it.
The Gards only said that, to get support from the public for their actions.
And yes, this murder was a one off event. This murder was only about Sophie. It was something she had seen, something she had known, something she had done, or was about to do, and that would have cost somebody else dearly.
Wouldn't matter to someone driven by a 'compulsion', their own safety or getting caught wouldn't come into it.
I guess without the whiskey to warm him up, he wasn't up to the midnight cross country treks in search of victims and the washing off the blood in ice cold water. The demon drink has a lot to answer for.
What utter nonsense.
Well it is possible they have but not in West Cork?
Its kinda of hard to murder someone when you have a couple of detectives following you everywhere you go. Also it's seems according to the west Cork podcasts that Ian cleaned up his act a bit after the murder. Stopped drinking whiskey which according to Jules turned him into a lunatic and the reason he beat the crap out of her. Interesting that he was drinking whiskey in the pub that night Sophie was killed.
Brilliant. He must have had some nose on him not to be put off with the smell of bleach.
Do you think the murderer is still alive? I don't know if there exists a concept in Psychology where those guilty of crimes convince themselves they are in fact innocent and I don't mean just lying about or denying their involvement. It must take it's toll eventually both mentally and physically. This could be the case with Bailey. True, you could never compare him with the likes of Dwyer who is a truly evil narcissist. Bailey is just a sad.drunken loser who ,more than likely, committed a brutal killing in a single moment of madness he will never repeat in his life.
For someone as described by the Gardai, they would have a compulsion to act, none of the above would matter. They would not stop themselves.
With the amount of media, garda, and public attention on Ian Bailey after the event is it really any surprise there was no other murders since.
Not according to the gardai
Maybe it was just a case of
If the issue was cleared with her death why would they need to kill anybody again?
"There was no brutal murders in Schull before Sophies, and none since... This has all the hallmarks of a one off event".
This is the key for me. The Gardai said that the murderer must be charged as they were likely to re-offend again. This was one of their arguments for arresting Bailey.
So if it was Bailey, why has he never murdered anyone since (or before as far as we know) since the Gardai were so sure that he would do it again?
I don't think Graham Dyer is comparable in this case..
Graham Dyer groomed, nurtured and moulded his victim into a submissive state over a long period of time. In his own mindset he dehumanised her, stopped seeing her as a person, more like an object to fulfill his deviance.
By the time Graham got around to killing his victim, he was totally devoid of any compassionate emotions towards her.. She was not a human being to him anymore, a mindset that he had evolved to over a long span of time.
Sophie's murderer did not have the time to dehumanise her. It was a rash action that probably got out of hand super fast.
Once the anger and rage had subsided, reality kicks in fairly lively.
The consequences of his actions would become all too clear.. A life of imprisonment, his family shamed, the guilt of what he'd done, the total mess his life had now become... Of course his personality will change, and change suddenly and drastically.
There was no brutal murders in Schull before Sophies, and none since... This has all the hallmarks of a one off event.
The murderer changed, I have no doubt about it. And people around him noticed the change too.
I wonder if the wells and septic tanks were searched for the houses in the immediate area?
Does anyone know what relationship Alfie had to Bill Fuller, if any?
Does anyone know what relationship Marie Farrell had to Bill Fuller, if any?
Does anyone know if Bill Fuller had any links to drugs in the area?
Yes, that's it in a nutshell
"Director of Public Prosecutions Eamonn Barnes said that the evidence ‘came nowhere near’ warranting a charge against Mr Bailey and that the case was ‘thoroughly flawed and prejudiced’ in relation to the former journalist.
Mr Barnes said that the garda investigation culminated in ‘a grossly improper attempt to achieve or even force a prosecutorial decision which accorded with that prejudice’.
As far as I know Bailey didn't own a car, but often drove Jule's car. If he was using Jule's car for the murder returned home, then he must have cleaned the car very thoroughly to return to the crime scene on the very next day. It's be pretty self incriminating if Bailey returned to the crime scene with a car's interior having blood stains from Sophie's blood. Or he really had balls.....
Bailey went to visit Alfie 4 days after the murder, according to earlier reports on the thread.
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Who witnessed this mysterious blue Fiesta speeding from the scene? If I recall, the local postman driving his delivery van encountered or had a near miss with such a vehicle but nowhere near the murder scene. It was on the main road heading to Schull. So, it could have come from anywhere. Maybe it was somebody late for work. As regards the Doc Marten boot print, again it could be anybody's. A Garda detective or inspector would not be wearing such footwear if on duty or having just ended a shift. These are plain clothed officers. I am unsure what rank the deceased Bantry cop - mentioned as a possible suspect - held. The only speeding car witnessed near Toormore that morning was being driven by Ian Bailey in the direction of Sophie's house. This occurred sometime before news of the murder became widespread. What was he doing if not on a journalistic assignment having acted on a tip off? Also, in the Netflix documentary footage somebody had recorded showing Bailey crossing a police barrier and walking up the drive toward the house. This was a live crime scene. Did he have permission from the Gardai to do so and for what reason was he there, other than, perhaps, calling on his friends Alfie and Shirley.
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