The penny has yet to drop on this. SF will need a coalition that can bring another 20-25 seats to the table to form a government. Shouting on the airwaves wont achieve that.
Other parties poor performance is giving SF the rise not the 'RA or Bobby Sands.
This idea that anyone who vote SF on occasion is a hard core republican is a nonsense.
The brits do business with Putin and China. They've also held meetings with and signed a peace deal with the IRA. And deal with a powershare that includes SF. And the UK must be mature enough to deal with who ever gets elected.
People are voting SF in such big numbers because of the constant lying balls up that is FF/FG.
No point in a United Ireland if we are going to keep Stormont so as not to hurt the feelings of a bigoted minority.
SF will not take over even if in government. Despite the behaviour of FG, there are rules for office.
Very encouraging numbers for the Shinners but still no realistic pathway into government based on these figures if an election was held tomorrow.
That said, difficult to see any government formed on these figures.
Think its a poor look for Ireland to put Sinn Fein in power. A party that thinks physical force republicanism was justified, its party membership thinks Patsy Gillespie and Jean McConville were legitimate targets of war.
Anglo-Irish relations aren't great thanks in part to Brexit, but putting Sinn Fein will just make things worse and just reinforce stereotypes that the Irish are just a bunch of Up the Ra Brit haters.
Also they are a dog on a bone with regards to all things Palestine, Venezuela and Cuba, I have no interest in Ireland getting involved in the middle east frankly, only America can solve the crisis and Irelands effect will be non existent.
Anyone who thinks putting in Sinn Fein will advance a United Ireland are off their rocker. I'm second generation living in Northern Ireland, I come from a nationalist family background and vote SDLP/Alliance, I generally support a United Ireland but would never vote for a United Ireland led by hardline Republicans and plenty of moderate nationalists also I know think likewise.
For example I support keeping the Stormont assembly in UI to make unionists feel they wont be discriminated against allow to them have veto power in the six counties. Like it or not we have nearly 1 million people here who don't identify as Irish or ever want to be. We have to respect the British minority on this island and accommodate for that. A poll found 70% of voters in the ROI agree with this proposal. Sinn Fein voters will of course find this completely unacceptable and in fact some of their supporters online have made noises about using taxpayer money to repatriate unionists who refuse to identify as Irish. Thats what far right parties do.
What? All the 'remember the IRA' stuff not working? :)
More than welcome to ignore my posts. You do seem obsessed with commenting about me without actually discussing the topic.
lolol as I was saying , discussing ffg is off topic yet again as its a sinn fein thread again , how can this poster get away with this constant shîte rakin is beyond me
Irish Times poll. Sinn Fein (32%) has 10pts on FG (22%) and FF (21%)
https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1445826659354021888?s=20
SF withdrew from the Assembly over the RHI Scandal and the fact that Arlene Foster would not step aside when the investigation was going on. There is still not an Irish Language Act, but two pieces of legislation were passed by Westminister (same sex marriage and abortion rights) which would never have been passed by Stormont because the DUP would have used the veto to prevent them. Interesting that the same sex marriage legislation was introduced by a Labour MP who is from Armagh, living in England. His father is a former SF Councillor!
Why are you posting on stuff you clearly know nothing about?
The poll was conducted among 1,200 adults at 120 sampling points across all constituencies on October 2nd, 4th and 5th. Respondents were interviewed at their own homes. The accuracy is estimated at plus or minus 2.8 per cent.
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This is a SF thread, maybe discuss the SF result?
After all the talk of doom, FF no longer having supporters, next election SF will walk it. Doesn't really seem to be happening does it?
Hopefully the attack SF for everything continues. While the opposition is being blamed all for sorts of issues to deflect from the lack of action the electorate becomes ever more restless. Thoughts and prayers with FGaelers
https://twitter.com/ToghannEire/status/1445826603959787521?t=rc8yl4vyMK63Bq6hpQIzQA&s=19
She is wrong, not sure why we need loads of repetitive posts on every subject, I was crystal clear, if you can’t understand not sure what else I can do
No. I asked you was she wrong and the closest I got was nobody suggested any alternative. FF/FG still living on the 'it could be worse' 😁
So you agree SF have no alternatives so are just hurlers in the ditch, good to see people are recognising it finally
No it doesn't. Being critical of rehashed policy is just that. I've another one, if you buy an apple pie and it tastes like arse, you can say it tastes like arse without baking one yourself. By all the evasion, I take it she's right.
It does make sense. Makey uppey stories don’t make sense. If the government has a plan and are confident it will succeed and nobody else has a better plan, including SF then how is teh government wrong? This is not hard to work out. No need for a boat either but SF might need one in the next interview when they are drowning 🤣
Disruptive to you. unfortunately for you not everyone is blind to how useless SF are.
I made points and now we have two rambling posts without any comeback which confirms I am right.
You can continue to point the finger, it’s standard practise for SF and supporters, but we all know including you the issue lies right at SF door and they have no intention of fixing it
You seem to have misread the fairly simple question I put to you.
Are you seriously going to try and argue the actual fact that the Norths budget actually is set and overseen by Westminster?
Or am I to assume that the irrelevant pile of nonsense you typed out there was just your concession that I am correct about the budgetary mercy the north are subjected to by Westminster after all? And if so - can I ask why you insist on wasting mine, your own, and everyone else's time making (what you obviously believe to be) "witty remarks" that inevitably end with them having to be corrected?
And as for this So I point out the glaring issue with SF and you can’t handle it so start making personal comments.
So I point out the glaring issue with SF and you can’t handle it so start making personal comments.
What "glaring issue" are you referring to? You were given an option to counter my factually correct statement about the Northern Ireland executive budget, and who sets it, you were unable to, and now have resorted to the all too familiar victim playing role.
Your posts are disruptive and a nuisance to have to counter and correct constantly.
That doesn't make any sense.
If a boat is sinking because of a hole you can't claim the hole is grand because the person pointing it out didn't suggest arm bands 😁
Yes, if she has no alternative then she is wrong as I already said….
And back to something something FG something something. Change the record
So was she wrong?
In the middle of a pandemic, with the Northern Ireland infection rate one of the highest in the World, what did SF do? Start a fight over the Irish language act, that’s after they shut down the government for 3 years over it, you not think people would prefer them to tackle the covid problem?
The biggest problem in Northern Ireland is the DUP and SF, both as bad as each other. If both of those parties got kicked out you wouldn’t have the same mess that is happening now.
Wait until the prospect of a united Ireland is discussed again... won't be long in being reminded then about who holds the purse strings for the north then let me tell you.
Haven't the FG gowls been on this site for years now telling us about how much the north costs the brits year on year, and now they would have you believe the shinners are actually setting their own budgets after all?
got a great laugh on twitter though the last 24hrs, "angry man shouts at cloud" sprung to mind.😂
At some stage the finger pointing is going to have to stop, someone in SF is going to have to realise that .
He ignores that and as with others come off like SF rules the north. Unless it's good news of course.
Or, God forbid, the people in the north get their living standards improved to come on par with the rest of the people in the South?
You obviously are aware that the Norths budget is set by and overseen by Westminster. Hardly surprising they don't feature high on the London govt pecking order, is it?
Not really, based on the performance of SF in Northern Ireland and the disaster when they took control over DCC, it could be a complete disaster. One guy talking about hiring consultants while another one in the same party talking about taxing the cr*p out of the consultants. Not much of a HSE when all the consultants up and leave is it.
You think a housing crisis can get worse? well look at the mess SF made of DCC when they only took charge for a few years, we could up with 50-60k and growing homeless
The only saving grace for the people in Northern Ireland was they could leave and come to the Republic. What happens when both side of the border is a shambles with the same crowd making a mess? we all hop on the ferry
I don't think so. Worst case scenario is that a Sinn Fein government brings equality by reducing us all to the standard of living in West Belfast, possibly the most deprived area in the UK, and ruled by Sinn Fein for generations.
