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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    😂

    So I point out the glaring issue with SF and you can’t handle it so start making personal comments.

    In the middle of a pandemic, with the Northern Ireland infection rate one of the highest in the World, what did SF do? Start a fight over the Irish language act, that’s after they shut down the government for 3 years over it, you not think people would prefer them to tackle the covid problem?

    The biggest problem in Northern Ireland is the DUP and SF, both as bad as each other. If both of those parties got kicked out you wouldn’t have the same mess that is happening now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    And back to something something FG something something. Change the record



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Yes, if she has no alternative then she is wrong as I already said….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    That doesn't make any sense.

    If a boat is sinking because of a hole you can't claim the hole is grand because the person pointing it out didn't suggest arm bands 😁



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭BKelly21


    You seem to have misread the fairly simple question I put to you.

    Are you seriously going to try and argue the actual fact that the Norths budget actually is set and overseen by Westminster?

    Or am I to assume that the irrelevant pile of nonsense you typed out there was just your concession that I am correct about the budgetary mercy the north are subjected to by Westminster after all? And if so - can I ask why you insist on wasting mine, your own, and everyone else's time making (what you obviously believe to be) "witty remarks" that inevitably end with them having to be corrected?

    And as for this So I point out the glaring issue with SF and you can’t handle it so start making personal comments.

    What "glaring issue" are you referring to? You were given an option to counter my factually correct statement about the Northern Ireland executive budget, and who sets it, you were unable to, and now have resorted to the all too familiar victim playing role.

    Your posts are disruptive and a nuisance to have to counter and correct constantly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Disruptive to you. unfortunately for you not everyone is blind to how useless SF are.

    I made points and now we have two rambling posts without any comeback which confirms I am right.

    You can continue to point the finger, it’s standard practise for SF and supporters, but we all know including you the issue lies right at SF door and they have no intention of fixing it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    It does make sense. Makey uppey stories don’t make sense. If the government has a plan and are confident it will succeed and nobody else has a better plan, including SF then how is teh government wrong? This is not hard to work out. No need for a boat either but SF might need one in the next interview when they are drowning 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    No it doesn't. Being critical of rehashed policy is just that. I've another one, if you buy an apple pie and it tastes like arse, you can say it tastes like arse without baking one yourself. By all the evasion, I take it she's right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    So you agree SF have no alternatives so are just hurlers in the ditch, good to see people are recognising it finally



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    No. I asked you was she wrong and the closest I got was nobody suggested any alternative. FF/FG still living on the 'it could be worse' 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    She is wrong, not sure why we need loads of repetitive posts on every subject, I was crystal clear, if you can’t understand not sure what else I can do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Hopefully the attack SF for everything continues. While the opposition is being blamed all for sorts of issues to deflect from the lack of action the electorate becomes ever more restless. Thoughts and prayers with FGaelers

    https://twitter.com/ToghannEire/status/1445826603959787521?t=rc8yl4vyMK63Bq6hpQIzQA&s=19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    😂

    This is a SF thread, maybe discuss the SF result?

    After all the talk of doom, FF no longer having supporters, next election SF will walk it. Doesn't really seem to be happening does it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭archfi


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    Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI opinion poll shows 7% drop in satisfaction rating of Government

    The poll was conducted among 1,200 adults at 120 sampling points across all constituencies on October 2nd, 4th and 5th. Respondents were interviewed at their own homes. The accuracy is estimated at plus or minus 2.8 per cent.

    "What does that even mean, vetting?"

    -Michael Martin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    SF withdrew from the Assembly over the RHI Scandal and the fact that Arlene Foster would not step aside when the investigation was going on. There is still not an Irish Language Act, but two pieces of legislation were passed by Westminister (same sex marriage and abortion rights) which would never have been passed by Stormont because the DUP would have used the veto to prevent them. Interesting that the same sex marriage legislation was introduced by a Labour MP who is from Armagh, living in England. His father is a former SF Councillor!

    Why are you posting on stuff you clearly know nothing about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Irish Times poll. Sinn Fein (32%) has 10pts on FG (22%) and FF (21%)

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1445826659354021888?s=20



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭BackOfMyBag


    lolol as I was saying , discussing ffg is off topic yet again as its a sinn fein thread again , how can this poster get away with this constant shîte rakin is beyond me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    More than welcome to ignore my posts. You do seem obsessed with commenting about me without actually discussing the topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    What? All the 'remember the IRA' stuff not working? :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Think its a poor look for Ireland to put Sinn Fein in power. A party that thinks physical force republicanism was justified, its party membership thinks Patsy Gillespie and Jean McConville were legitimate targets of war.

    Anglo-Irish relations aren't great thanks in part to Brexit, but putting Sinn Fein will just make things worse and just reinforce stereotypes that the Irish are just a bunch of Up the Ra Brit haters.

    Also they are a dog on a bone with regards to all things Palestine, Venezuela and Cuba, I have no interest in Ireland getting involved in the middle east frankly, only America can solve the crisis and Irelands effect will be non existent.

    Anyone who thinks putting in Sinn Fein will advance a United Ireland are off their rocker. I'm second generation living in Northern Ireland, I come from a nationalist family background and vote SDLP/Alliance, I generally support a United Ireland but would never vote for a United Ireland led by hardline Republicans and plenty of moderate nationalists also I know think likewise.

    For example I support keeping the Stormont assembly in UI to make unionists feel they wont be discriminated against allow to them have veto power in the six counties. Like it or not we have nearly 1 million people here who don't identify as Irish or ever want to be. We have to respect the British minority on this island and accommodate for that. A poll found 70% of voters in the ROI agree with this proposal. Sinn Fein voters will of course find this completely unacceptable and in fact some of their supporters online have made noises about using taxpayer money to repatriate unionists who refuse to identify as Irish. Thats what far right parties do.



  • Administrators Posts: 56,600 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Very encouraging numbers for the Shinners but still no realistic pathway into government based on these figures if an election was held tomorrow.

    That said, difficult to see any government formed on these figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Other parties poor performance is giving SF the rise not the 'RA or Bobby Sands.

    This idea that anyone who vote SF on occasion is a hard core republican is a nonsense.

    The brits do business with Putin and China. They've also held meetings with and signed a peace deal with the IRA. And deal with a powershare that includes SF. And the UK must be mature enough to deal with who ever gets elected.

    People are voting SF in such big numbers because of the constant lying balls up that is FF/FG.

    No point in a United Ireland if we are going to keep Stormont so as not to hurt the feelings of a bigoted minority.

    SF will not take over even if in government. Despite the behaviour of FG, there are rules for office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The penny has yet to drop on this. SF will need a coalition that can bring another 20-25 seats to the table to form a government. Shouting on the airwaves wont achieve that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Grass roots Fianna Fail might prefer SF to Fine Gael bearing in mind how FG have treated FF in Government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Maybe, but they will want a heavy price for any deal as SF would arguably be the bigger party in government. Will they allow a rotating Taoiseach for example?

    It also blows out of the water the idea of this cheap soundbite about power swaps, SF giving FF the keys to power.... again! Of the irony!

    The talk will of course be a left-wing government with SF at the helm, but I don't think there will be enough left wing votes in the country to get a majority. SF + Labour + SD + Green + PBP/Sol..... would it get to 80 seats? Can you imagine the likes of Paul Murphy in power? Haha... good luck with that. It should be hilarious for all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    No they won't. The current carry on of SF is driving a nice big wedge between them and the other parties. It’s not like they can stop, they have no alternative

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    FG going sending Coveney to celebrate partition thus undermining Michael D. That SF lead gonna grow!



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