Your assumptions aside we have different views and that's fine with me.
This actually sums up very well the problem you can't seem to get over. People did things in different times for different reasons. You try excuse the ones you like and demonise the ones you don't like.
Off topic to be discussing Dev, who was a fraudster and cheat. Ripping off Irish the world over under the guise of patriotism.
And I'm very sorry but you can't hand wave away giving condolences for Hilter's death as some form of diplomacy. Likely he felt obliged because we were pals with the Nazis all through the war.
Wonder if the SF employee looks after any social media accounts for them too. Seems like a lovely individual
Fair comment 😎
I'm sure they've proof and have informed the the proper personnel...right?
I am not a fan of Dev, but one thing I do admire about him (in common with Leo Varadkar) is that he kept us out of WW11, saving thousands of lives. Bear in mind that over a 1000 people were killed in a bombing in Belfast. Hempel personally called on Dev to apologise for bombing the North Strand. Staying out of the war meant that GB had a plentiful supply of food, not to mention the Irish spying on the Germans and having one of the most successful code breakers who Dev had hired and authorised to supply info to the Allies.
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is that the height of " evidence " ? ff councillor claims they are getting abusive emails from some fella called cillian ? for all we know that councillor might be telling lies , hes from ff after all , who are going to be devoured by the shinners at the next election .
i get the feeling youd not swallow the story as unquestionably had the roles been reversed ?
It’s not hard to imagine, it’s about the standard of most online chat from SF fans on Twitter and Facebook. Seems like the usual stuff
The TD is right, why would someone want to follow a life of politics with the carry on from SF supporters? It’s a disgrace.
You are guilty of FF/FG spin. Was a lad on here calling SF voters scum the other day and he got some 'thanks'. Exceptions to the rule?
Trying to claim people who voted FG or FF are now somehow blaggards because they voted SF this time, is sour grape bullshit.
Cillian from SF should be fired, but he will probably be promoted. Says it all about SF.
If Cillian from SF exists (I can't find anyone who fits the bill in the description, so I'm very curious as to what position he holds, whether it came from a SF email account or whether it is a possible nom de plume), then the email and the person responsible deserves nothing but derision. That type of rhetoric has no place in civilised politics.
That being said, going on from that to some scenario you've completely invented.....well no, that doesn't, 'say it all' about SF....it says nothing at all, you just made it up!
I'd like to see the party make some official comment on this allegation; if they decide to just ignore it, you might have a better point to make suggesting THAT says it all about SF.
This is the comment from one TD from Sinn Fein..
And what about the post in here two days ago calling Sinn Fein voters low IQ, scum and the party terrorists? Was liked also. What do you think of abuse by FFG supporters like that?
I think Cillian has issues.
They probably begin and end with him not existing except in cllr Keith's imagination.
What post was that now? Link?
If someone did that then take it up with them
I think you will find its the same online people at this for years, hence why you have SF coming out numerous times in the past telling online supporters to cop on. Long before the election in 2020.
The swing vote in 2020 have nothing to do with any of this, because of the sudden support for SF we now have these people who think they have a bigger platform so have moved up the stakes, as I said, they won't be happy till some nut jobs kills a TD. Then SF might review what the f**k is going on.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/gerry-adams-tells-sinn-f%C3%A9in-supporters-to-show-best-behaviour-online-1.2792555
Any link to the post and was it reported to the mods? we have all sorts going on recently on boards, dummy accounts getting created to resemble other users, dummy accounts getting created to throw abuse at users etc, accounts been created in the names of TD's and of partners of TD's.
The post is deleted now it seems. It was on the morning of the 3rd by a poster called Relax Brah. I quoted it and reported it. My quote is gone too. Are we getting to the stage where we have to screenshot posts?
The original tweet/claim by FF is deleted now. The person they were insinuating it was is now looking for anwers.
https://twitter.com/cilliandoyle87/status/1445145358133248004?s=19
The tweet just said Cillian. How was it insinuating anyone.
You'd have to wonder why the tweet was deleted, my own guess would be it was a good "idea" at the time, but the fantastical tweet spiralled out of control, and SF party members asked for the email address so they could apprehend or sanction "Cillian". Panic stations all around and so tweet deleted.
A fib that spiralled out of control perhaps?
There's only one Cillian working for SF in the Oireachtas. Hence why that Cillian was asked.
https://twitter.com/BowesChay/status/1445347575268315136?s=19
This is still up. Methinks evidence would want to be given quick. https://twitter.com/MaryButlerTD/status/1445101201691922432?s=19
Why would someone make it up? the original tweet said it was happening for months.
I would expect FF came in and told him to take it down. Better off not getting involved with that cr*p online
You don't have to be in the Oireachtas to work for SF. They have hundreds workung for them in all sorts of roles
Something might have happened connected to SF, but SF will do nothing, typical SF.
Living in your dreams mate.
In all the issues SF have had with online abuse of people etc have they ever got rid of a TD or fired anyone over it? it has been ongoing now for years and nothing.
It is fairto make a statement based on history that SF will do nothing about it now this time either
But there's no evidence of this. Just a slur and mud people want to stick. This latest stunt stinks milkshake girl.
Let's think about it rationally here shall we?
Firstly, the "Cillian" fella would have to be fairly stupid to be sending emails "for months" under an email address that directly proved he was in fact a "Cillian from Sinn Fein"
Secondly, you think Fianna Fail have evidence of abusive communications from official members of their rival party, and that they would tell one of their own councillors to "take it down" rather than the Sinn Fein member sending the emails being "taken down"?
Leaves me to conclude either the Cllr has jumped the gun accusing someone in the wrong with no evidence, or it was a fib that spiralled out of control.
Tell me, are you this naive in real life?
