Lisdowney could complain about a few calls that went against them against the Boro last sunday.
Couldn't agree more the boro boys seemed to be on the wrong side of the major calls today. In fairness to the referee after attending the 4 senior this weekend he was probably as good or as bad as any of them .. I question what the criteria is be a referee at senior or adult level in kilkenny. the lad in the tullaroan game today overweight and didn't move from middle of the pitch.. Hardly fair on players training all year.
If you're going to start analysing the ref in the first game then it's going to be a long list and the Village will have plenty to be aggrieved about as well. He didn't favour either team in my opinion. He tried to let the game flow and it just became a bit of a mess
Whatever about a league final, you'd think a shield final would be consigned to underage competitions these days.
Referring decisions cost the boro today.
1 Bill Sheehan’s effort for goal in the first half , Ref gave advantage and when he put his shot wide no free in was given.
2 Andy Gaffney taken down with a head high tackle (could have been a red card ) Shane Stapleton through for goal , no advantage given.
3 free blown for the village before they got the goal , goal was given.
consistancy?
anyway not the villages fault, I congratulate them on their win.
The Boro did not do anything to counteract Kenny influence on the game.
Must be sickened alright. It's long overdue time to do away with League & Shield Finals. Teams are only interested in, and will only be recognised for, Championship success . If Co Board don't make a move would any club be bold enough to just give a Walkover? Asking them to play effectively a challenge a week before Championship quarter-final is just crazy.
Cian Kenny moving to centre forward a huge reason Village won the game. Some lovely scores out of him.
Tame enough effort out of Bridge. Didn't think Shamrocks had to be too good to win but they just have lads everywhere stepping up take scores
The way I'd put it is do Bennettsbridge give a damn right now that there league champions.
Senior Semi final draws
Village vs Ballyhale
O'Loughlins vs Tullaroan
Extra time in Tullaroan/Clara,
Mossy was running through in last min went for goal but should have thrown over the bar.
Carrickshock would have been my dark horses for intermediate but if john power and mick rice are missing its hard to see them getting past a semi final,
Thomastown and Glenmore the two favourites, id say both were keeping their cards close to their chests yesterday.
watching Tullaroan and Clara on Beo sport, close battle, commentary are not afraid to call out the poor wides😂
The draws are this evening and agree that the league finals are a waste of time.I think carrickshock picked up a few injuries in the shield final
I also went to the olg match and thought they were better and just found it hard to finish the match against a stubborn Vegas side who were missing a few important players.Mark bergin had two good goal chances hit nearly identical at the keeper.I thought Robbie Buckley was very good when he came on and paddy deegan was a constant threat bringing others into the game.
Skeough beating windgap must go down as a surprise.Fenians done it again yesterday against a fancied dunnamaggin side.Tullogher had a fine win over ballyragget
In a tight schedule with the club scene you have to wonder would it be not best declaring winners on scoring averages or point difference talking to a player he has more shield medals second best is what he called them.
Looking forward to a bumper Sunday of action today, great spread of games.
Only saw the intermediate league final yesterday, think it might be time to scrap the league finals. Eoin Murphy didn't start for glenmore and they made two subs in the first half. Thomastown made 4 changes from start including John Donnolly and Jonjo and took off a few important players as well.
Senior was the same the week before, it is a nuisance to clubs at this stage, it would be one thing if it was two weeks out but week before makes it pointless. As for the shield final totally pointless.
Are all the draws on tonight or tomorrow night does anyone know?
2 well worked early goals by Paddy Deegan and Mark Bergin helped OLG to a deserved 6 points victory over a game Mullinavat team. OLG had 3 other goal chances and it looks like they are trying to set up goal chances rather than take easy points. Lawlor, Deegan and Molloy did best for the Gaels. Vat got 5 points from their midfielders, Willie O'Dwyer also battled hard
I see the county board are starting to form an under 17 panel for next yr. Calling in 5 from each club including next yrs under 16s.
Agree 100% re finals being played in Nowlan Park.
Any update on when/if the potential under 19/under 20 or Under 21 competitions will be played?
From what I've heard he will be chairing the committee to draft a report on the state of hurling and structures in Kilkenny. There will be recommendations in it at the end I assume. He has be involved in similar reports in Offaly and Laois and I'm sure other counties. He won't have any role in making sure the recommendations are acted on as far as I'm aware. I could be wrong on that but that's my understanding of it.
This is very disappointing.I know it might take a little time to get things off the ground but that sounds very poor.i thought with the bit of noise highlighting our lack of success or our acceptance to be happy to be just competing that people in power might get together with a positive plan or maybe go outside the county for a template.It doesn't suprise me and unfortunately.
Can someone tell me what is mick dempseys new role?
Was talking to a parent with a lad involved. Little has changed same lads over squads with 20 years 2 guest appearances all year by former players
Slightly off topic here but I was talking to a guy who was at the u13 match and he was impressed with the standard on show and he was optimistic about the future.How did we get on with our improved development squads this year?ciarian muldowney definitely had good ideas and former players were getting on board.We have being very slow to react to this.The stats don't lie It's 2014 since minor and 2008 since u21.Its now 2021 and we are only reacting.We were stuck in a time zone and we needed to look at what galway or cork recently have done at underage.
Waterford and clare have gone back to basics and putting plans in place.Cork really got their act together and are coming.Our neighbours in offally and wexford have being putting in the hard work.The gym in kierans will hopefully be a help because particularly at u20 we have being blown away.Mick dempsey was recently appointed a director of some sorts.What will his role be?
It was interesting to hear Stephen o keefe won't be returning to the Waterford panel and is happy enough to bow out quietly.Do we expect Colin fennelly to return next year?I expect a few retirements.Ive went to a good few club matches the last few weeks and the standard is still very high.Some teams are adapting better to the modern game.Bennetsbridges season hinges on Sundays match with the shamrocks. The winners of the kk championship will face conor phelans mount leinster rangers.
Some interesting odds for hurling. Kilkenny are 6th favourites for the AI in 2022 at odds of 11/1 behind Lk., Galway, Cork, Waterford and Tipp in that order.
On the club scene, Ballyhale are favourites followed by Clara, OLG, Boro,Village, Mullinavat, Tullaroan and Bennettsbridge. The Bridge and Tullaroan are both 20 to 1. The Bridge are 4/1 to beat Ballyhale. Village and Dicksboro are evens in their match, Tullaroan are outsiders against Clara as are Mullinavat against OLG
That Dunmore is an awful place for a match nevermind a County Final. Was talking to a Co Board rep a few weeks back at a match in Callan. He said they aimed to have all underage finals bar minor in Dunmore. As if it's a grounds to be proud of.....pitches back to back are a joke along with parking and exiting. Keep it for Development squads and challenge matches.
Plenty of good club grounds in the County if Nowlan Park unavailable far superior to Dunmore.
Umpire issue is not acceptable for a Co.Final for sure. If matches were outside of Dunmore surely the host club could provide an umpire or two if referee was let down at last minute.
It's in regard to the poor setup in general. The umpires "incident" was one issue but as outlined above, the whole thing was a lazy effort by the county board and should be done better. I heard that there was an issue in another underage final at the same venue where a hole in the net caused some confusion.
Is this in regards to the U13 final at the weekend? I heard there was an "incident" between 2 umpires.
With all the recent discussion about underage hurling in the county on here, there are a few things I would like to see the county board address in the future. If we can't get the basics right how can we expect to be any better at the rest of it.
Firstly, every underage county championship final should be held in Nowlan Park. I think it does the young lads a disservice to hold them anywhere else.
Secondly, a referee should bring linesmen AND umpires to county finals. It is unacceptable to ask the managers of the two teams to nominate umpires minutes before a final and it is totally unfair on the young lads to have partisan umpires trying to infuence the outcome of a final.
Thirdly, is it too much to ask that a pitch is properly set up for a final? Things like flags around the perimeter and proper goals that don't have holes in the nets and 1 meter plastic piping pretending to be posts (some in different colours at that!)?
From what I heard Adrian's issue is a cut and infection rather than broken but I could be wrong.
The boro haven't being hurling well and although they were a little better than lisdowney yesterday they very easily could of drew or got beaten.They are missing oillie Walsh,Tom Kenny and Robbie Fitz along with a few others so thats huge for any team.Lisdowney are probably punching above their weight but a very hard working balanced team and have being very close in most games.After looking at the rower Saturday I'd give lisdowney the nod.
Timmy Clifford was very good at wing back and bill sheehan got a fortunate goal but himself and Andy gaffney are a threat.Aidan nolan wasn't great the last few matches.Id say the boro didn't score for the last ten minutes so this has to be a worry.
I didn't see the village match but conor browne hasn't played since he picked up that injury against Dublin and he is obviously a huge loss.
Comer were very disappointing and Wallace and delaney weren't as dominant as they should of being.Michael Murphy is only back and was quite.Fogarty tried hard and went into the forwards in the second half.Padraig and Martin Walsh were good and Shane was very lively and is hurling very well and is definitely one who should definitely be given a proper run with the county next year.
Tullaron will fancy their chances especially if Lester is gone.Bolger started brilliantly but fizzled out.Liam Ryan got a few scores to keep clara in it but willie Murphy got a few great points to nudge the bridge ahead.liam Blanchfield got 4 points and Jason cleere has played the last few matches in attack.They also have Rob lennon,ciarian brennan and Sean morrisey to return for probably the match of the wknd against the shamrocks who had to work hard against ballycallan.Paddy and Darren mullen both came on but adrian Is out with a broken hand.
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