Any photos/originals from crime evidence from Sophies front garden? (& btw not a clump of briars in sight )
I think Sophie ran down her lane possibly in the dark/early morning and instead of turning right at the hairpin bent went straight thru the scrub/briars/brash into the field, either due to visibility issues or being disorientated.
This would explain some of her injuries, & the cops/scene in the field from yesterdays photos, her being snagged on the fence, having climbed or been thrown over...& blood on the gate as it was climbed from the field side...
If this was the route she was terrified throughout...& knew she was about to be killed..
That is a much later photo of the same gap and the gate is now gone, and no sign of any fencing around that area, curiouser and curiouser !!
The phantom killer, hitman who comes out of nowhere, disappears into thin air and leaves not a trace behind? That wouldn't be a conspiracy theory?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
Your theory certainly contains elements of plausibility but ordinarily one might expect a flare-up at the gate to put time of death either at the early or late end of the range of possibility. One imagines that an early-hours flare-up could only be precipitated by a party-goer making noise at the gate. I guess you're thinking that a disturbed Sophie comes out to investigate (possibly with something in her hand) and she is then attacked (possibly out of a sense of protection of self or another). I posted earlier that the use of a concrete block doesn't necessarily imply that the perpetrator was a very strong person.
This is one of many forums where there are people(shills, trolls) active whose sole intention is to move the focus off the only peope we know were in the vicinity of the murder.
Here's another pic of said field she ran or was chased down in the dark. With that incline and soft ground I wouldn't fancy that myself. Going back to something I was thinking about yesterday - with all this alleged running, chasing either down the driveway or across both fields why are there no more footprints?
Let me summarise what the DPP said to the Guards about the investigation ; What do you want me to do with this SH*T?
"So grow up and move on to why it might be covered up."
Maybe start another thread over in conspiracy theories about the cover-up which has been regurgitated ad nauseam on here?
How about the forensic investigation was good? There are no prints, dna whatever of anyone outside of 3 people we know for fact were in the immediate vicinity. How things happened are generally secondary to narrowing down the suspects.
So grow up and move on to why it might be covered up.
Here is that gap, (yellow arrow) it's actually a gate way from Sophie's front lawn beside the pumphouse- the gate closes onto the pumphouse.
It's on the opposite side of the lane to the attack gate (red arrow).
That is a newly hung gate as fresh mortar is visible at the bottom hinge pin.
There are also fence posts strewn around Sophie's lawn, indicating fencing work being done.
My early theory was that this work was being done by someone other than Sophie and was the reason for her travel.
Expecting a confrontation, she asked for someone to accompany her.
Her original intention was to be travelling back that day but unfinished business delayed her .
Maybe this was her unfinished business.
There are then at least 6 or 7 reasons why that story musn't get out.
Well give us 3 or 4 of them.
You aren't bamboozling anyone here, Mam. You know nothing more about this case than any of us here, your theories are guess work the same as ours. You have no special local knowledge or inside information. Yet you choose to hijack the thread with page after page of ' Shirley & Alfie, Shirley and Alfie, Shirley and Alfie....' Yet you cannot put forward a single plausible scenario of how it happened.
It's gratifying to get under the skin of anyone from the ABA(anyone but Alfie) crowd. I'll leave the 'blow by blow' humourless, cliched fantasising to you, given how you relish.
I'd like the adults to consider the scenario of 6 or 7 guards/detectives, on maybe Stephen's day '96, looking at each other but not actually saying out loud what each is thinking; it's Alfie and Shirley.
Comparing to other photos of the scene that gap would be at the gateway on the right hand side of the lane leading from the corner of the field onto the laneway. You can make out the pump house beside the gap.
The gate that can be seen slightly lower down is the gate that closes across the laneway. It is in the open position, swung back against the left hand side of the lane as you head away from the house towards the 'main' road.
Excellent photo. That gap in the hedging there is interesting. It's difficult to tell on which side of the driveway it is located.
certainly possible - and there is reporting that backs up your asercion - a Garda said the door was locked
OK, so you have been harping on about this hypothetical scenario forever. Run the hypothetical scenario past us. Blow by blow. What time of day or night? What route did the attack take? Who did the physical work? Why would the Gaurds cover up for these non local people? You obviously have a good idea of what you think happened.
As they say, pee or get off the pot.
What's your theory?
Precisely
I`ve never at any time said that this was a well run investigation. However I think the photo was more about the keys rather than the position of the lock.
I would have thought the point of taking pictures was to point out what position the door was first found in.
in the crime scene photos the door is on the latch - ie the bolt is held open and will not lock the door when pulled shut
BUT, as above, a Garda on the scene stated that the door was locked
Yer man above thinks the Garda have come into the house and put the door on the latch (for ease of entry) and then taken a photo of it -- it seems bonkers but the massive ineptitude of the keystone cops means it's not impossible
As sick of hearing about the door as people might be - I do think it matters because if she pulled the door locked behind her (locking herself out) then, for me, it means she very likely did not leave the house of her own volition to walk down to the gate
I think people should consider the hypothetical situation that Alfie and Shirley had driven out and were doing something at the gate when Sophie came down in a rage. Something awful happened and we know everything after Alfie called the Guards.
Why then would the Guards steer the investigation away from them?
Hypothetical of course.
yes the pictures show that - but one of the Garda on the scene apparently said it was locked ...
so who fcking knows really, the Gards have made a pig's ear of this whole thing
It's only confusing if you want to go along with a highly unlikely sequence of events like a struggle at the door and a race down the field/lane.
The crime scene picture of the front door with keys in the lock is on the latch meaning it can be pushed open. That's the point of taking pictures.
I don't know what a door "on the latch" looks like.
Does it mean it it will lock you out automatically unless you set it on the way out to allow to get back in without a key?
or is that "off the latch"?
Was the Yale lock on the back door on or off the latch?
there's confusion about how much blood was on the ground at the house - with some stating a lot of blood and some saying very little blood; the door handle was clearly a further complication to that
There was a swipe of blood on the back door from where the killer had tried the handle. Any other negligible amount of blood obviously fell from the killer when they were passing by the back door. Going where?
Why would they show you anything if it's going to be after they've changed it?
How can it beyond doubt when there was blood on the back door, blood in the green area to the front of the house and both doors were locked?
Because that was the lock where she left her keys.
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