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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,135 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Just as an aside, the US legal immigration system is fucked right now. There is a backlog of 500,000 people waiting to be issued visas, myself included. Some embassies, like dublin, have wait times of 3 years +. No doubt the numbers of people "overstaying" their visas through no choice of their own will be huge





  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm also not sure what these posts from "either" of you has contributed to the thread. If you think a post is not allowed, then report it rather than backseat mod.

    However, there are many instances where you cannot conclude whether something associated with a presidency is good without comparing it to previous presidents, e.g. an approval rating. And I did not see "either" of you complaining earlier when Biden's approval rating was compared to Trump's. Not only did those posts that mentioned Trump not bother you, but you instead thanked those very posts that mentioned Trump. Why? Because that poster was on your side, so of course it doesn't bother "either" of you then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Josephfromdowntheroad


    3+ years wait at Embassies like Dublin, that's crazy.

    Hope you get sorted with yours soon👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,680 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Gee...I wonder what happened prior to this year to cause backlogs in immigration...could it be...the actions of the previous administration?



    (NB: Lots of better seeming articles about this on paywalled sites. But, in summary, the #2xIMPOTUS administration did everything in their power to slow any form of immigration to the US.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "I'm also not sure what these posts from "either" of you has contributed to the thread. If you think a post is not allowed, then report it rather than backseat mod"


    It's a cheap and failed attempt at a "gotcha" moment.

    Plus, it's notable that these folk prefer to post in that way rather than rebut any allegation against the former guy when a relevant one is made.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭BobHopeless




  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's literally not. It's due to Covid and it's due to his predecessor's policies. Like, are you actually just a troll?

    Some of the backlogs are due to restrictions imposed in response to the Covid-19 pandemic. But some also spring from pre-pandemic Trump policies or actions that the Biden administration hasn't unwound.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,098 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Shouty person blames 3 year wait on someone in the job for 8 months...

    The wait time was purposely increased due to xenophobic and racist policies from a US administration, it will take a while to sort out the mess that xenophobes and racists have made (doesn't that just sum up a portion of the USA?).



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    3 year wait.


    3 years.


    Would you like to think about that for a minute and then tell us how this is Biden’s fault.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,321 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It probably is Trumps fault but your logic is faulty. A three year wait does not mean that the problem was started exactly three years ago.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    No, it means it started more than 3 years ago.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    You may be waiting for sometime before it clicks with him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There's a whole culture war going on in the United States and to varying extents around the western world. It's not something the election of any president could really abate.

    Social media is a big culprit in all of this. Was totally unregulated and it's only in the last few years that SM companies are reluctantly making tokenistic efforts to stop the spread of disinformation, but really they're raking in the cash by creating algorithms to increase user engagement by feeding them ever more extreme versions of what they like, and the political consequences of this have been massive. It's meant that news networks and political parties feel enormous pressure to follow suit in order to maintain relevancy, and is another example of users using technology in a way which completely blindsides the establishment.

    But even if Facebook and Twitter promised to really police their platforms, there is now a viable market for the belief that Hillary Clinton is a satanic alien who drinks the blood of children and someone will always be there to exploit that segment without much regard for the consequences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭Josephfromdowntheroad


    I agree with what you have to say completely.

    I said it before and I stand by it that US politics now is just a real life reality show that keeps giving.

    Look at us we are all the way here in Ireland taking spare time out of our days to come on here and squabble with eachother why Biden or Trump is the right choice.

    We have been had hook line and sinker.



  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Many people in this thread either live / have lived in America and/or have a career/education associated with US politics. You are not one of these people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    People come on here to discuss a variety of ongoing current events, many of which don't necessarily have the most relevance to our lives but which we have an opinion on, and we share that opinion with others and maybe get an interesting discussion out of it.

    But as well as that, American politics does have some bearing on us just because the country still has a lot of cultural influence over the rest of the west and whatever is going on over there can leech out into our political sphere, and we can see that with the various groups of fringe crazies popping up and having their little protests outside the Dail.



  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Took me awhile to find it but this reminded me of this tweet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭BobHopeless


    Joe's numbers continue to slump

    This can't continue for the Dems. The "big guy" is in trouble...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭scuba8


    You obviously haven’t read the article,as usual. The article says Joe Biden’s approval rating is at 50%.

    Hardly in trouble.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭BobHopeless




  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, absolutely terrifying when you consider that the only three presidents who only had one full term presidency since approval ratings were first measured each had lows of 27.6%, 28.3% and 37.0%. He must be shivering in his boots that he's about to join the same group.

    Not to mention the fact that the last president to never have an approval rating go lower than 50% was JFK, and that wasn't even one full term.

    Edit: And also not to mention the fact that all of the full two term presidents since JFK had an approval rating of 45% or under (40.6%, 45.0%, 36.8%, 35.3%) at some point in their first term and yet somehow they were all re-elected.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Any response to my post? You’re blaming Biden for visa delays that started over 3 years ago, the stupidity of this is pointed out so you pivot to approval ratings.


    approval ratings which are trending up.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    And yet we have posters, thinking he's nailing it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,564 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Nothing you say, makes me question my opinion.

    And neither demands an answer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 490 ✭✭BobHopeless


    I just leave them to it at this stage and have several on ignore. They as deluded as they come even when it's staring them in the face.

    In the short few months Joe has been in charge he's botched the Afghanistan withdrawal, botched the vaccine drive, run scared from journalism and split the democrat party in two with his stimulus pipedream and let's not even mention the border disaster which he owns 100%.

    The American public won't stand for this guy much longer and it's starting to show in the polls 😪



  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So the fact that the poster you quoted has been objectively wrong in almost every post he has made does not make you question your opinion?

    You should always be questioning your opinion, otherwise you have three bags full.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    No he didn't, nohe didn't, no he didn't, no he didn't, no he doesn't.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I just leave them to it at this stage and have several on ignore. 

    "I just turn Boards into a safe space."

    You blamed Biden for someone's 3 year immigration issue when he is 9 months into his term. Let me highlight that again for you. You blamed Biden for someone's 3 year immigration issue when he is 9 months into his term. No poster, on either side, would ever agree that the reason you dislike Biden has anything to do with his policies based on that alone. And posters on both sides also find it hilarious that you consider people on the other side delusional based on that alone.

    Any issue that currently exists in the US must be because of something that has happened in the past 9 months in your view. The US apparently does not have any long-term issues. The border "crisis", for example, has only existed in the past 9 months apparently. In fact, I believe you first blamed the border "crisis" on Biden less than a month into his term what, about half a dozen reregs ago?

    Biden would like to personally apologise to you for not fixing that long term issue within his first month, he'll get right back to building that wall that people who have walked hundreds of miles across desert will certainly not have a plan on how to climb. Even though the majority of illegal immigrants in the US are from visa overstays and not from illegal border crossings, Biden hopes that this will make you happy.

    You also claim that the vaccine drive has been "botched", even though his Covid relief plan has been universally praised. And even though when posters asked you how the vaccine drive could be improved, you could not answer. You both think it's bad and also can't think of any way of improving it, all at once. Impressive. 88% of Democrats are fully vaccinated compared to 55% of Republicans. The last republican president told US citizens that Covid was nothing to worry about. Who is at fault for that 55% figure?

    You claim that the Afghanistan withdrawal was "botched" even though when posters asked you if the withdrawal was the correct thing to do, you did not respond. Because that would mean agreeing with something Biden did, and we couldn't possibly be having that. And if we asked you to point to withdrawals of that scale that have ever gone smoother, I'm sure you'd be able to make an impressively large list.

    You suggest that Biden has "run scared from journalism". If I understand you correctly, you are not suggesting that Biden is afraid of getting a degree in journalism, but that he is not answering questions. Biden is, instead, answering questions at the same rate as previous US presidents, with the exception of the last one. Biden has had four times as many solo press conferences in his first nine months than the last president had in his first year, for example. I'm sure that didn't bother you at the time though. And at his first solo press conference, he was not asked a single question about the pandemic, arguably the biggest issue he has to deal with, so you must forgive him if he prefers spending his time fixing issues. The previous president also singled out reporters he didn't like and didn't take their questions. He would instead only take questions from reporters that he knew would ask him safe questions, even at press conferences. Biden does not do that as he is not a scared, sensitive little bitch.

    And you suggest that Biden should be concerned about approval ratings, and yet every president of the past 50 years has at some point had an approval rating lower than Biden's lowest rating. Given that presidents who have had their approval rating as low as 35% in their fist term have somehow miraculously been re-elected, he must be absolutely terrified.

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