Yes, you are.
Looks, using eyes. I posted a link to them built, under the Harris article I posted.
Can't speak for them myself but I'd guess their problem 23 or 24 years after 1916 was England.
Who the fcuk is talking about the HSE, certainly not me.
The inability of you to answer a simple question about the interview confirms what I have said. You have failed to mention anything about consultant/GP's or how much all of this will cost yet are trying to tell people it "looks pretty good". Talking about a prefab is pointless if you have no consultants and it has been pointed out by many many people that SF will result in less consultants, not more. The fact Cullinane had no answers confirms what a rabble they are
As I said maybe some people are impressed with SF only able to shout about the government but the rest of the country will require details on what and how they plan to achieve this lofty promises.
That is when the poo hits the fan for SF.
No you certainly are not, everyone else is
All this while defending Zappone appointment in another thread lol.
Well, this poster seems to have missed the many answers, and clearly explained reasons, so perhaps you might nudge them in the right direction so as they could enlighten themselves.
Thanks.
Yes more than likely and their obsession blinded them to the nature of their new allies. IRA/SF collaboration with the Nazis BTW lasted from 1937 to 1943 a period of six years.
Only towards the end of the war did details of concentrations camps etc come out, in the days of no tv and limited radio nobody would have known , even in Germany itself huge parts knew nothing
That been said not sure why it’s discussed here as Provisonal Sinn Fein and the PIRA didn’t form till 1970
It's presumably being "discussed" here because the thread title is "The Wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein"
Can you show me where in the thread title the word "provisional" is mentioned, or the letters "PIRA"?
I'll save you some time, you can't because they're not there, now how about stop trying to derail the discussion with irrelevant nonsense.
Please.
The nature of Nazi occupation policy in the East was widely known from late 1939 on. Poland was a predominantly Catholic country and the widespread killing of civilians and the use of concentration/labour/extermination camps was widely known from early in the war even if some chose not to believe.
The Polish underground army as well as the Catholic authorities were sending this information abroad. If Irish men were prepared to fight for 'Catholic Belgium in WWI ' why not for 'Catholic Poland' in WWII. Some of them were but others in SF/IRA would rather have seen Nazi Germany dominating Europe including its offshore islands.
As I have posted before the fiction that (Provisional) SF is some sort new entity whose history starts in 1970 is pure nonsense. If it were true what were McDonald (SF) and Keenan (IRA) doing in 2004 commemorating Sean Russell the former IRA leader who collaborated with the Nazis and was being transferred back to neutral Ireland on a U-boat when he died, presumably of natural causes.
SF is just that, it's what's on the ballot paper, it's what's in this thread's title. Theyre SF not The Nationalist but slightly Socialist Party.
This is the problem for Sinn Fein. They want to claim lineage back to 1916, but they want to deny the Nazi collaboration bit in the middle. It turns them into liars.
This man is a former Sinn Fein general election candidate, and a prominent activist with influence in the background.
"Highly respected within the party, he joined the ‘Republican movement’ in his native Offaly at just 16-years-of-age, on Easter Sunday 1966 – the 50th anniversary of the Rising.
He unsuccessfully ran for Sinn Fein in three elections here and is a former chairman of the Donegal Comhairle Ceanntair."
He is now also a prominent anti-vaxxer.
That means both of us are right.
You are doing a lifetime analysis, I am looking at the current picture, what is happening now.
In my opinion, the only reason for looking at a lifetime analysis is to attempt to smear Mairia Cahill and downplay what was done to her.
Society changes, culture changes, but some people don't and cling to the old ways of violence being good. Mary-Lou is in that category.
So as I said, your objection was wrong and it was foolish to act outraged at the suggestion that Máiría Cahill was more connected to paramilitarism than Mary-Lou.
I can fully accept that one could look at who is currently more connected and make an argument that it is Mary-Lou, but that doesn't make us both right, it still makes your feigned outrage entirely wrong when you now fully accept that it is an entirely valid and logical position to hold.
would also be a problem for posters and politicians like yourself blanch , who tell us the sf party of today , is an entirely different one to the one pre 1969 , yet you now would be happy to try and link the present day one to nazis .
some of us might say that is wanting it both ways , but not me , i just see your post, as 1 from a long list of hypocritical high moral grandstanding posts from yourself !
so are you now saying sinn fein are the oldest party in the state , because - nazis , or are you saying sinn fein of today arent the sinn fein of the 40s ?
So you say. Again I ask, have you any proof he convinced that poor man to leave hospital? You've failed to support your claims. No such thing as a SF general. Also I get your efforts but this vendetta against anything SF is obsessive and unhealthy.
It was claimed SF had knowledge of the dissidents and it was pointed out FG made one a senator.
You brought Maria Cahill's name and rape into the discussion. You used the woman to try deflect. You are abusing Maria Cahill. You have her defined as a victim and nothing more to be used when convenient. Shameful.
Every major Irish party including DeValera had some dalliance with the Nazis, (lets not forget the British royal family too), but the genesis of FG were fascists in their own right. This SF deflection all kicked off because a photo of WT Cosgrave giving the nazi salute at a fascist rally was posted the other day. Its pathetic really. The hypocrisy.
DeValera gave condolences upon Hitler's death.
and? I never knew DeValera was part of Provisional Sinn Fein
If you are determined to drag every political thread into a conversation about the Nazi’s then maybe start a thread on the subject and it can be discussed in detail, just an idea
'Dalliance', a period of brief or casual involvement. SF/IRA's dalliance with the Nazis lasted 6 years and was far from casual.
If Sinn Fein drop the claim to lineage back to 1916 and the celebration of Sean Russell, I will happily link them to the Nazis.
There is nothing hypocritical in arguing that the current Sinn Fein have their origins in 1970, but that if they want to claim lineage backwards, they can be criticised for their Nazi links.
You keep repeating the lie that FG made one a senator.
The Sunday Independent story from last week details his involvement with the group that convinced that poor man to leave hospital.
I was being glib. Its a nonsense discussion to deflect from WT Cosgrave with no relevance to 2021.
You accept you are using her.
The claim was SF had more connections to dissidents. FG made one a senator. You consider that she claims not to be one now as acceptable while trying to link MLMD to nazis. Pull the other one.
So you made it up. Will you at least now retract your lie that he was responsible? All you have done is make false claims and post unrelated links. I hope he's not litigious for Boards.ie sake.
so what is it , they cant claim lineage back to 1916 , and then theres no nazism links , or they can claim lineage back to 1916 and there is nazism links ?
your in a bit of a pickle with that one , because you would only love to say current day sf had links with nazis , but in order to make that link you would first have to concede that they have lineage back to 1916 , now you must surely be saying if they have their beginnings in 1970 then the sinn fein of which fg split from have the nazism links . your in a right fix now blanch lolol
you havent explained what it is you believe to be the case .
also , i cant be the only one here who grew up with songs about the blueshirts and franco , mussolini and the nazis , theres a book you should have a read of called " even the olives are bleeding " about the fifth international brigade if your interested in reading about it !
Its a discussion forum, really you are talking about “litigious” 😂😂
