Excellent article on Newstalk this AM concerning the setting up of the above committee
@otmmyboy2 The map I threw up there, it's funny it's the countries that are often lauded as places to aspire to that have the highest guns per capita, Scandinavia, Germany, France, Switzerland and Austria.
Dunno what Denmark are at...
Or this fine example:
Mind you, that article doesn't mention he got sacked so probably still an active cop.
I couldn't find a map of handgun legality across the EU
Probably because now with the UK gone we are the only country where you cannot own one larger that a 22, and a 5 shot 22 at that.
Similarly we are the only EU country to have practical shooting banned.
But I'm sure "bringing us into line with the EU" will include the above, and other areas where we are worse off like reloading, muzzleloaders, blank firers requiring authorisation, the 1 joule limit for firearms, low powered airguns needing licences, ammunition limits, standard capacity magazines for sport shooting, state funding for shooting ranges and shooting sports, etc.
Just off the top of my head I know ireland lags far behind most EU countries in areas firearms related.
Just had a listen to it there. Not bad at all I thought. OK a few facts wrong especially licencing for one year? In fairness James Browne did point out that it's not "one in eight armed". Anton did raise some legit questions over renewals being box ticking exercises. And James Brown did say there are legit reasons to own guns and multiples of. Fairly measured I would have thought, there was no OMG guns bad angle.
@garrettod I'm inclined to agree and I don't see us gaining anything. Maybe it's just a government, nothing to see here effort and nothing will change. A window dressing exercise?
Did they mention bringing us in line with Europe, will there be an incentive to buy scheme rolled out?
I couldn't find a map of handgun legality across the EU 😂
Edit - I say "in fairness" to much.
"VERDICT 6/10. Some good ideas there and some not so good. setting up this panel could be a double-edged sword to us, as who do they intend to get on there as "civilian advisors" AKA retired Garda members like our dear friend former Insp Brookes?The author of the Garda gun grab in 2015?😱😱 One we need to watch out for folks."
You mean like some of these "ex-members"???????
https://www.thejournal.ie/gardai-seize-cannabis-cash-arrest-dublin-5561233-Sep2021/
The concept of having a committee with relevant expertise, for the Minister to consult with, before making any decisions on firearms issues, is probably a good thing - although much depends on who the "experts" are etc. Who gets to pick the civilians, for example?
The fact that it's only proposed for a six month term, suggests a very specific agenda, which may be a concern.
Linky:
https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-the-pat-kenny-show/proposals-for-a-new-advisory-committee-on-gun-laws
Podcast up now. The 250,000 figure BS figure is the first thing up.
Firearms expert committee. Mentioning the licensing inconsistencies, est an expert committee to look at what type of guns are in circulation, and licenses thereof and possibly try and get it in line with Europe[THAT will be a shock to the system]. Consolidate the amendments on amendments into one act[about time]
Committee to be made up of Dept of Justice officials, Garda officials and two independent civilian experts, not representatives of "the gun lobby" [Yup as I would guess and critiqued this idea on that point🙄]. No head shrinkers initially on this.Lots of back and forward waffle about having headshrinkers on this expert committee initially. Minister is against such at this point. Talking about giving AGS powers to remove firearms if there is a domestic dispute and situation[They are already doing such and have done so numerous times]
Set up this committee, fixed term of 6months and start interviewing. soonest.
VERDICT 6/10. Some good ideas there and some not so good. setting up this panel could be a double-edged sword to us, as who do they intend to get on there as "civilian advisors" AKA retired Garda members like our dear friend former Insp Brookes?The author of the Garda gun grab in 2015?😱😱 One we need to watch out for folks.
Caught the tail end of this with some lad on the pro-gun side saying this is a good idea and with some of JBrownes Min of state parting comments.
All questions answered on the podcast.
