200km should be fine. And even if you need to charge it'll be 10 mins probably. You'd struggle to go to the bathroom and get yourself a drink in that amount of time
I know an EV != ICE, and I will have home charging and I am expecting to just get up and go without some planning and work has charge points. Speeds would be M18 (100-120) and 80-100 outside of the motorway.
Thats c 200 kms, so what speed have you in mind?
If you think driving an EV is business as usual like driving an ICE then it may not be the car for you
The fobs are now 6 euro, the app works as well, no need for fob but I prefer the fob,
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Just after reading your post, you have the exact same version I have ordered and seem to be driving a route I plan to be too. Honestly was a little worried after you mentioned about taking the early exit off the M18 to conserve battery. Starting to get a bit worried by the 58KWhr choice now, how are you finding it range wise, Galway - Limerick (return) is my 'normal 'long' ' trip.
Tour 5 spec looks the same-
My sales guy warned me of a VW price increase across the board in October which is why I paid the deposit when I did- in fairness he was correct.
Used it last week, just plug in and charge. No app or fob required.
Don't know about Aldi, but any Lidl ones I have used use Easygo. You need to be registered with them, was free to get the Fob last year when got ours, presume still is. Will work fine with free charge points like Lidl, but you need credit for the charged ones like Decathlon, Ikea etc.
I think they've upped the spec too though.
Anyone else notice the price increases for VW ?
Tour 5 is now €1051 more expensive
All models except the entry level have gone up in price-
June pricing €41,110
October €42,161
Anyone used a charge point at ALDI..is it free or do you have to have a Newmotion account which are the charge point operators.
Info very scarce on this or I wouldn't have asked.
I'm not sure many here have the heat pump nor could justify the price, I don't think it's needed with the range of the 58 Kwh especially with the 78 Kwh, It was different in the days of the 24 Kwh leaf when any extra efficiency was welcome due to the low range.
I think the battery heating being poorly managed ( currently ) will greatly wipe out any benefit of the heat pump. There is no driver control as to whether they want to waste energy heating the battery for short trips or not nor is there an option to pre heat for fast charging, at least not yet, all this can be implemented via software updates but I can imagine VW engineers would think that this is too complicated for average drivers to understand but full auto control over battery heating could still be an option for those clueless drivers and I know People who will never get how auto climate control works and keep a rag on the dash to wipe the windscreen because it keeps fogging up lol so I can never imagine People like that understanding battery heating which is why I think manual and auto control would be really good feature to have.
Do any of these cars with the higher small journey consumption levels have the heat pump fitted?
One of the best route plnners out there is A Better Route Planny (ABRP)
It has presets for the ID.3 and will plan your charging stops
The onboard satnav will also do this, but it tends to be quite conservative, it doesn't like you going below 20% SoC and seems to want to charge to a higher SoC than needed.
ABRP lets you set a low arrival SoC and knows the charging curve so will ty to optimise your stops
Firstly, thanks for everyone who has contributed to this thread, it's been really useful.
My family and I relocated to Ireland a few months ago and needed to sort out a car fairly quick so just rang a few dealers to see what they had in stock. Went for a silver ID3 Family 58kWh (the lower powered 145PS version). The only addition was the bike rack towball which I got installed by the dealer. Pricey at 1250EUR but it's a very neat job and I'll get plenty of use out of it.
Really happy with the car so far, it's a nice spec and plenty fast compared to anything I've driven before (and maybe can be soft-upgraded in future - I understand there's no physical difference between the two power levels?).
Proper lane keeping would be nice to have, I didn't cop the difference between travel assist and lane keeping assist when I bought it. Even without it the ACC is great though for motorways. Again, maybe something that will be a paid-for upgrade in future - I'd imagine all the hardware is in place.
Got lucky that we're living close to a (for now) free 50kW charger so between that and charging occasionally at Lidl, car parks etc we haven't charged at home much. Living in a temporary rental house for now so it's granny cable out the window when we have needed it. Once we've bought a house we'll be getting an overnight charger installed.
It's been interesting how you automatically start thinking in EV mode (or at least, a geek like me does). Previously in diesel mode I'd have taken longer motorway routes without thinking too much about it - e.g. the M18 from Limerick to Galway - turning off at Kilternan means 19km to Doughiska roundabout in Galway versus 27km if you continue to M6 roundabout, but no real difference in journey time.
The only ID3 efficiency data I've found is the link below - 19km at 90km/h would use 2.45kWh, or 4.2% of a 58kWh battery, whereas 27km at 130km/h would use 5.45kWh, or 9.5% of 58kWh (the data is .129kwh/km at 90km/h vs .202kWh/km at 130km/h). Average speeds would be a bit lower on the roads mentioned here but similar maths will apply. A few choices like that on a weekend trip is the difference between needing to stop for an extra charge to get home, or not.
insideevs.com/news/444065/volkswagen-id3-highway-range-test-results sorry can't post proper links...
On a related note - is there any route planner which can do this sort of maths for EVs? Or even a chart/curve with a few more datapoints?
Battery charged to 90%. Return journey of 260 km mostly motorway at speed limit. (M7,M50). Getting home with approx 30%.
Yes I would say any decrease in efficiency atm is purely down to cabin heating, IIRC the first time last year I noticed battery heating was in November.
Then again, I don't normally "do" early mornings, the advantages of being an evening worker🙂. Even this time of the year and hopefully for the next month or so efficiency for me will be similar to the warmer months except for a bit of cabin heating when required.
I guess for comparison, I just went to the shops, roughly 4km roundtrip and had consumption of 19.9kWh/100km versus my average of 17.4kWh/100km
Probably down to having the temperature set higher (21C versus 19C) and it being a bit colder
I didn't see the huge initial power draw that would indicate the battery heater working hard, ~2-3kW while the car was sitting idle
I could see the battery heater switching on in the the early mornings after a cold night. The car seems to try to keep the battery between 20-30C as much as possible
What type of stats are you getting Fits ?
Battery before leaving, home and distance if that’s not too annoying ))
Waiting on a 77kw and interested to see the effects the weather will have-
Also is it running the Andoya wheels ? Do they have run flats or Conti seal set up?
I had a fiasco on Sunday with a flat in the Zoe, space saver I’d picked up off a Clio didn’t fit the front wheel, needs a spacer, put it on the back and it got me home- jack broke as the last bolt went in....Trying to maybe plan ahead to suss out a spare for the id3 and a heavy duty jack- thanks -
Wait till the temp goes below zero.. Would be surprised if there was any battery heating as yet, I certainly haven't noticed it.
I've noticed the app can be pretty hit and miss when it comes to updating the charging limit
Seems to fail to update a fair bit
Haven't tried the latest version yet so maybe they've improved it
Yeah the consumption in my ID.4 has gone above 20kWh/100km as well
One thing to watch out for is the consumption from short jouneys isn't indicative of what it'll do over a long journey
If you do 3 short journeys a day the battery and cabin will be heated up 3 times, as opposed to once if you were doing a longer trip
In the car it's just a simple matter of moving the slider to the desired % and the time to charge will immediately show.
On the app you do the same, but you have to remember to press "save" when you change %. App also as we know is not always reliable with 4G reception etc.
% can be adjusted before or during charging.
How can you over ride the 80% charging ceiling on the app or in the car.
I have it at 100% on the app under settings but the estimated time is to 80%
Should the charge level be set before you start charging?
Am not at car now
He's been great to work with alright!
I am new to this forum. I have id.3 bought in feb this year. Its the basic model but has everything i need. Sofrware 2.1 and got wecharge app two weeks ago. The 2.3 rollout for ireland starts on week 40. Lovely car and dream to drive. Still finding little bits not in manual. Silver colour.
I used 2% more battery on my commute this week, but i travelled a bit further too.
I had something similar with my Ioniq after a short journey a few weeks ago.
Apparently even allowing for the ID3 battery heating - this can be normal on short journeys in cooler weather.
Departure tax a boards EV regular described it as when I asked about it.
Amazing the difference a drop of few degrees make. I do mainly short trips less than 5km on my daily commute, was averaging 14 kWh/100 km, today 20kwh/100 km. Battery heating problem is still there! Oh well back to 300 km range.
People seem to like the Grey with the Black, its funny how neighbours that I wouldnt know beyond Hello were curious about the car
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