I wouldn't have voted SF in a million years but the latest buy your votes attempt by this government in the form of a bank holiday for everyone in the audience has sent me over the edge.
A political rich list was compiled by the Indo. What was interesting was that the Leader of SF, MLMD self-proclaimed fighter for the working class and downtrodden is herself a multi-millionaire.
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/with-an-entire-generation-wondering-if-theyll-ever-be-able-to-afford-their-own-place-owning-a-home-gives-a-td-a-vested-interest-40886697.html
Mary Lou McDonald needs to take a closer look around her. When she proclaims to the nation that “she doesn’t know any millionaires”, that’s not quite the case.
The Sinn Féin leader lives in a home worth €1m in suburban Dublin. She has a pension pot worth another €900,000 from her time in the European Parliament and Dáil. Nobody begrudges her and her family. She and her husband have worked hard through their lives to be this comfortable.
MLMD doesn't know any millionaires, apart from herself being one of course. Tut tut....
Odd, I thought killing innocent children and women and Gardai and Irish Defence Forces personnel were crimes.... I must have been mistaken.
I guess when you prefix 'The Cause' with your acts of violence you get a 'Get out of Jail' free card, and continue to spout your nonsense and spoof away.
Grade A lunatics!
See they are pur shite, so we look for alternatives. Be mad to blindly follow failed FG/FF scutter.
Book 'em Crocker!
You brought my quoting of a FG'er over to this thread to accuse me of selective quoting because I didn't supply a link. Which was embarrassing for you because I cannot post links. Basically I commented on the piece I quoted. The sinn fein element wasn't much nor relevant to my point.
I never denied SF were blocking housing when its not fit for purpose.
Lucky this time? They abstained. That means they didn't vote either way.
Lets just put "...but SF would be worse" spoken in a whiny little voice on a repeating loop and close this thread down because thats about as useful as it has become.
🤣 Oh do let us in on the mystery Lieutenant Kojack. Where exactly was it copied and pasted from? Who loves ya baby?
Or was it a little uncomfortable reading a satire of an attack comms strategy that you regurgitate day in day out and it's a little close to the bone?
It was good to note Mary Lou McDonald was one of the first politicians to speak out about the disgusting and vile scenes that went on outside the home of Leo Varadkar last weekend.
Another copy and paste job.
Do you have any views that you think of all by yourself?
Or just from the book, you know, that SF handbook that was discovered last year full of soundbites and little nuggets.
Actually funnily seeing how it's the SF thread. Mark Ward there objected to a new garda station being built for Clonburris....
Fine Gael boogyman politics glossary - SINN FEIN EDITION*:
*(use in emergency when you're losing a good faith argument badly and you need to drag things into the ditch where you're more comfortable)
Sinister: We want people to think of opposition politicians like Sinn Fein as they might think of Skeletor or the Penguin from Batman. Would you vote for Skeletor? WOULD YOU???
Chilling: A close relation of sinister. Irish ABC1 voters, although educated and wealthy, may have a residual fear of the paranormal from when they visited their granny down the country as kids and she told them Banshee stories or warned them off the fairy fort. Chilling is the optimal word to reactivate their latent fear of the supernatural in this otherwise rational demographic. Recent research from our interns at Fine Gael HQ suggests subtle messaging that Pearse Doherty is in fact a púca of ancient lore coupled with a suggestion he will *raise your taxes* is an effective gambit. CHILLING
Blocking: Sinn Fein have a nasty habit of scuppering the transfer of publically owned land banks to our lionhearted captains of industry - who as we all know from Business Org class in whatever Jesuit day-school you went to, are the only people who have the know-how and bravery to build housing. The word BLOCKING evokes a strong mental image of Mary Lou MacDonald petulantly standing in front of a digger leading a human chain of other unreasonable people from odd-numbered postcodes who, without the benefit of a private education or a commerce degree from UCD, can't mentally process that the magic hidden hand of the market and really high house prices on public land actually produce really low house prices.
Not a normal party: Fine Gael is a funky contemporary brand and lifestyle choice for the young generation - like Pepsi, but in political form. But, as much as we like to let our hair down and listen to the best of Coldplay on Spotify every now and again while enjoying a cheeky craft brew we picked up in Donnybrook Fayre, we keep things between the ditches and like it that way. We don't want to give people psychological permission to suddenly adopt a reefer habit, join the dole queue and spark a Marxist insurgency in Cabinteely. Just as you might say: "hey man, not normal " to a friend who is toying with going to an illegal rave in Wicklow and experimenting with MDMA, if your friend mentions Sinn Fein as the two of you talk politics over a pint of Kinnegar pale ale, you say to him: "bro, NOT A NORMAL PARTY." The chances of him straying from the path is drastically reduced. Actually, we're not sure about the effectiveness of this, but we paid the Communications Clinic 40k for it so we'll run with it for now.
I'm talking Sinn Fein directly here. I get it, it's pure awkward. I'll pose it this way, and it's a useful benchmarking exercise for everyone to assess Sinn Fein's alleged housing stopiness given the claims floated. I think it's important we figure this one out between us for the sake of democracy:
Who displays more housing blockiness in raw housing terms and who's more sinister?
*That's eight, five, zero, zero; a most chilling number of homes all at once.
Wash rinse repeat
This is the SF thread, maybe 🤔 discuss Sinn Fein on it?
That was an awkward one wasn't it? Varadkar's constituency running mate blocking 8'500 homes all in one shot. More than the entirety that it is claimed Sinn Fein has done (but really didn't).
The answer always, something something FF/FG something something
wash, rinse, repeat
How predictable.
To put some reality about some of these Orwellian newspeak claims about Sinn Fein's rather consistently held policies on the transfer of public lands to facilitate private developments I offer you the following...(and there's much more where this came from)
*whistles in Blueshirt* What a blocky blockerson. Chilling
"Rising star" of FG Emer Higgins sinister blocking of 8'500 homes in West Dublin. You read that right, this FG TD alone displays more housing blockiness than the entirety of Sinn Fein. Not normal in my book.
https://fora.ie/balgaddy-clonburris-paul-gogarty-appeal-4110963-Jul2018/
You posted an Eoghan Murphy poolbeg disaster from 2019 as proof SF ruined housing, when both FF and FG had more seats on their own than SF on council and it was a government **** up anyway. Get up the yard.
If SF are the biggest blocker of what FF/FG/Green pass off as a good deal, may they continue to do so.
Saw that. Claim was SF controlled DCC for 7 or 8 years. Thanks for clarifying. I knew it was nonsense. They'd an agreement with like minded parties to try tackle the FG housing crisis. Good on them.
I don't believe you know what an anti-vaxxer is. By your definition the majority of the electorate in 2015, (the article is from 2015) were anti vaxxers, as were numerous politicians from all parties _HPV was a concern for many).
An anti vaxxer, IMO, is someone who is anti vaccines. I think in your rush to slag off the shinners and the majority of the electorate you've lost the run of yourself.
I don't believe you know what anti-immigration is. You seem to think anyone who is concerned about too much immigration, is anti-immigrant. You can be pro asylum seekers and immigrants and against an open border policy, but in your rush to slag off shinners, you lost the run of yourself.
The problem is Sinn Fein are now making fools of themselves around housing. Like O'Broin making a boo boo the other day and Leo laughing at him, the answer from Sinn Fein was shouting and roaring.
Plus more and more are seeing that the reason why houses are not been built and haven't been built for years is because Sinn Fein are blocking it. Even the article today with them abstaining from voting is another confirmation of they couldn't care less about people buying homes or been homeless. They just want some buzz words and more people homeless so they can shout about it.
Again this is a Sinn Fein thread. You don't need to share a link to reference an article, you can provide details on the subject and of course the location(RTE etc).
As I already said it again confirms Sinn Fein are blocking houses even in the middle of a housing crisis when they get the chance, lucky this time other parties had control and they couldn't block.
It is fairly pointless going around in circles so I will leave you to it
I take it you didn't read the exit polls for the last GE or indeed much in the way of polling since with reference to public sentiment on housing.
"Ignorance is the softest pillow on which a man can rest his head"
I think you're vastly overestimating housing and how much the electorate care.
FG were ahead in the polls most of the time over the last few years including Leo as the most popular leader up until Zappone gate.
SF are pinning all their colours to the housing mast.
Leave them at it. I think it's the best thing for everyone at the moment.
But didn't I quote the FG man in a government thread and you brought it over to this thread to criticise because I didn't mention the 3 abstaining shinners?
For the third time, I cannot post links.
(I'd insert a still from the dead parrot sketch if I could)
You've obviously got some Sinn Fein paranoia. I left out the shinners for two reasons. One, I didn't find it interesting but two and most importantly I was wanting to comment on the bullshit the Fine Gael man came out with. You are a bizarre fellow.
It's the Sinn Fein thread, so yes everything is Sinn Fein.
You pulled one section out of article to have a go at a FG TD, never mentioned what it was in reference to, what the article was about etc etc. Trying to cover up now what you attempted to do is just making you look worse. Just admit you didn't want to share because of the reference to SF.....a mate of mine would refer to it as "The Sun Journalism" :-)
I. Can. Not. Post. Links.
I actually thanked you in the other thread for posting.
Is everything related to Sinn Fein? Are they hiding under your bed? I quoted a FG man in a government thread and you saw it as me hiding something shinners did from a different thread. They even abstained :)
'Sinister', stop, my sides are splitting.
Sinn Fein ate my hamster posting.
Stop 10 punters in the street and ask them who was running the show for the last decade and who's responsible for the housing dumpster fire. You'll hear Fine Gael 10 times out of 10, and you know what? All 10 are on the money, because that's the facts of the matter. The Irish people aren't thickos.
FG are welcome to roll the dice and try this on with the public, but they'd be digging even more electoral graves for themselves.
I did more than claim, I have provided the evidence, even more today with Sinn Fein showing that if they had a majority they would continue to block houses in Dublin. Hence why you tried to hide the article.
You choose to ignore it, some others do as well, the rest of don't.
Over 6000 blocked already, how many more if they had their way in the middle of a housing crisis. Sinister carry on
I won't even bother asking you to outline what you're on about. You clearly think you've stumbled upon something but have gone all Scooby Doo on us. If you want to return serve on the facts as presented to you go ahead, but I suspect you've lost your footing and are crowing to the umpire about some something or other.
The proposition is this: FG carry the can on the housing disaster, the public are holding them accountable and they're deeply deeply shook about it.
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