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The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It is actually quite funny to see the squirming going on.

    Sinn Fein were the biggest party in Dublin City Council after the Council elections and got the chance to run the Council with other parties, but can't be blamed for the complete failure to do anything about housing, even though they made it their own top priority according to their own press release.

    Sinn Fein were the biggest party after the last election and the other parties were spoilsports for not stepping aside and letting them run the country.

    At least it shows that the other parties learned something from Sinn Fein incompetence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    I expect we will get back "something something FG or FF something something"

    Whatever happens cannot criticise the absolutely shocking performance of SF in DCC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    I'm happy to say they could do better, but suggesting SF are the problem is just trying to deny any accountability for the government, minister of housing and the sterling work they do 😁

    Poor helpless Fine Gael and Fianna Fail. Who'll look after the cuckoo funds ad foreign investors? Ye both have a funny if deluded view of how housing worked and works. I didn't see 'if Sinn Fein say we can' at the end of their latest effort? Maybe call up the lads and tell them to give Mary Lou a bell 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Sorry, you are doing exactly as predicted, denying responsibility. A joke of a party, that's what SF are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    I'm not Mary Lou McDonald. I've absolutely no responsibility 😁

    The government is powerless and Sinn Fein run the country. Will you tell Micheál or will I? What about the new housing plan, do you think Mary Lou will sign off? 🙏



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    The discussion is just to point out how terrible Sinn Fein are when they have a little bit of control over something. They got elected into DCC on the basis of fixing housing etc, got the majority and as per their own website they took control of DCC. Then since 2014 - 2019 they turned what was an housing issue into a housing crisis in Dublin. Now the current DCC is trying to resolve the issue the only problem is, well Sinn fein keep rejected every proposal so they can't build houses.

    Why are Sinn Fein rejecting houses? well to make the housing crisis worse so they can get on every social media and news platform to blame "da Government". Of course some people believe all this and make excuses, if you don't then you are called "sheep" etc. Oh the irony.

    We are now back in the stage of Sinn Fein promising to fixing housing along with everything else if they get elected. Sound familiar?

    As I said already, they will build more houses if they get into government, just because I would hope Sinn Fein wouldn't reject to all housing projects like they currently do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Complete bunk.

    You don't have a clue about housing in Ireland and SF never controlled Dublin City Council. I see the Greens in the mix as one of the parties SF tell what to do. Tales of the Unexpected how are you 😜

    You give your idea why they and other parties block the same failed plans put forward by FF/FG/Greens. If you can show where they tried to block purely based on NIMBYISM I'll criticise them with you.

    Stop telling porkies. Can you quote anyone from any party saying 'they'll fix every thing'?

    You've a very skewed party political view of reality. When every opposition party and numerous experts are warning us the government plans are bad, it's the shinners trying to make government look bad...okay, sure 😏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    So you are saying the Sinn Fein website as provided above was lying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    No, you are lying or not comprehending. The link claims they were working with other parties not controlling them and telling them what to do.

    I could list a bunch of times Eoghan Murphy made a balls of housing, (like the prison cell/share a kitchen model), but you don't want others parties mentioned unless it's to do SF LARPing.

    You'll be along with examples of SF blocking housing for **** and giggles?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    If you are unable to read a Sinn Fein website then no point trying to have a discussion.

    I will leave you to it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Says they look forward to working with the other parties listed. In no section does it claim SF control the council. Can you help me by pointing it out? Can you also show examples of SF blocking housing just because they want to make the government look bad? I've only ever seen instances of were they explain why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Grand so, so each of FF, FG and the Greens can blame each other for every decision this Government makes and you will accept that, because those are the standards you use.

    The usual of one rule for Sinn Fein, a different rule for everyone else, just like the pigs in Animal Farm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    A section was pulled out of this article on the government thread but the link was not shared. I was wondering why not link and then I seen it

    Another display from Sinn Fein trying to stop the building of social housing in Dublin, if they had the majority more houses would be blocked in the middle of a housing crisis.

    A total of 27 voted in favour, while three Sinn Féin councillors present abstained.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0913/1246534-proposal-public-land/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Silly billy stuff from the Horsemen of the Housepocalypse.

    Bum fluff propaganda from the FG Marks and Spencers spad unit doesn't change the appalling record Gaelers occupying the Dep. of Housing on both the Poolbeg and O'Devaney Gardens developments.

    Councillors of all stripes came to an agreement in 2019 for increased affordable housing on the O'Devaney site and Murphy of FG threw a strop because he didn't approve it and had his side-deal with developers. Delayed due to intransigence and an ideological brainfart from the Gaelers.

    The Glass Bottle Site debacle is also at the feet of FG as outlined already. A golden opportunity with cross party support for a shedload of affordable housing ballsed up by a FG Housing minister despite a deal between NAMA and DCC because Murphy felt emasculated that he didn't approve it.

    FG have a monopoly on these housing balls-ups. The proof is in the pudding and on record.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    What a strange reaction.

    Its government ministers behave like that. You don't follow the news?

    I didn't know the Greens did what Sinn Fein said.

    You must think housing has been terrible the last number of years? Or is it just the parts of Dublin during a specific period?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Eh, i can't post links mate. Also I was quoting a Fine Gael fellow. SF thread don't you know.

    The 3 shinners abstaining didn't tickle me as much as the FG'er talking like they only got the gig that morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Do we have to go through the difference between abstention and a níl vote or are you confident you'll get it on a second reading?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Leave them to it.

    Honestly that's the best thing we can all do now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ah here.


    You want people to show clear evidence of parties doing things to make other parties look bad.


    You know noone can do that, but you know dam well it happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I'm embarrassed you actually thought you would get away with such a blatent copy and paste job.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    A 'blatent' (sic) copy and paste of what may I ask Jangle unchained ?

    As Milli Vanilli once famously sang: Jangle you know it's true, oh oh oh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Embarrassed for you again.

    But not surprised, as this resembles SF online twitter stuff that passes as intelligent comedy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    He claimed the opposition only try block housing schemes to make government look bad. It showed a complete lack of understanding of the situation. Nobody is going to damage their career by making matters worse for their constituents and expect to get elected. Sure look at Fine Gael's stats of late.

    'Ah but we all know' doesn't cut the mustard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Seems like I touched a nerve. I know its difficult to accept the huge failings of SF in regards housing, failing which they continue to today. No point trying to have a conversation with this ranting.

    I will leave you to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I won't even bother asking you to outline what you're on about. You clearly think you've stumbled upon something but have gone all Scooby Doo on us. If you want to return serve on the facts as presented to you go ahead, but I suspect you've lost your footing and are crowing to the umpire about some something or other.

    The proposition is this: FG carry the can on the housing disaster, the public are holding them accountable and they're deeply deeply shook about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    I did more than claim, I have provided the evidence, even more today with Sinn Fein showing that if they had a majority they would continue to block houses in Dublin. Hence why you tried to hide the article.

    You choose to ignore it, some others do as well, the rest of don't.

    Over 6000 blocked already, how many more if they had their way in the middle of a housing crisis. Sinister carry on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Sinn Fein ate my hamster posting.

    Stop 10 punters in the street and ask them who was running the show for the last decade and who's responsible for the housing dumpster fire. You'll hear Fine Gael 10 times out of 10, and you know what? All 10 are on the money, because that's the facts of the matter. The Irish people aren't thickos.

    FG are welcome to roll the dice and try this on with the public, but they'd be digging even more electoral graves for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    I. Can. Not. Post. Links.

    I actually thanked you in the other thread for posting.

    Is everything related to Sinn Fein? Are they hiding under your bed? I quoted a FG man in a government thread and you saw it as me hiding something shinners did from a different thread. They even abstained :)

    'Sinister', stop, my sides are splitting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    It's the Sinn Fein thread, so yes everything is Sinn Fein.

    You pulled one section out of article to have a go at a FG TD, never mentioned what it was in reference to, what the article was about etc etc. Trying to cover up now what you attempted to do is just making you look worse. Just admit you didn't want to share because of the reference to SF.....a mate of mine would refer to it as "The Sun Journalism" :-)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    But didn't I quote the FG man in a government thread and you brought it over to this thread to criticise because I didn't mention the 3 abstaining shinners?

    For the third time, I cannot post links.

    (I'd insert a still from the dead parrot sketch if I could)

    You've obviously got some Sinn Fein paranoia. I left out the shinners for two reasons. One, I didn't find it interesting but two and most importantly I was wanting to comment on the bullshit the Fine Gael man came out with. You are a bizarre fellow.



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