The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

They opposed the Oscar Traynor deal which was an abomination and a massive transfer of assets to private developers and made DCC pay through the nose for units on land that a hot second before they sold to the developer at a deep discount. They pushed the glass bottle site into a most favourable arrangement for affordable supply and was a once in a generation chance at developing an affordable new quarter of Dublin until it was torpedo'd by Eoghan Murphy.

Their housing policy is consistent and is leagues ahead of the braindead crap that FG were pushing, taking public assets, directly transferring the land value gains to private developers and making the taxpayer foot the bill over the odds for meagre units reluctantly handed over under Part V while the unaffordability crisis rages on. Rentier housing policy that exacerbates the issue.

Heaven forbid that FG take a look at themselves, admit they were screwing up and change course. They'd rather gaslight the population and point the finger elsewhere with boilerplate spad propaganda and cross their fingers someone buys it.

Don't think that's one Simon Harris wants to take on. Saying "you have no evidence of that" isn't exactly "that never happened and I can prove it".

The dogs on the street and all that...

I was reading on this forum that Matt Carthys career was jeopardised over this, could be serious repercussions etc etc. I doubted it at the time, and then when they came out basically not denying it, but telling Carthy to get his evidence, I knew I was reading a load of codswallop in here.

Harris will be reshuffled to the back benches soon.

Let's recap.

You said SF controlled the council for 7 or 8 years.

They didn't. Ever. One year they'd more seats than any other party but not FF/FG combined.

So you are wrong. Let's remind ourselves during this 7 or 8 year period we had a FF/FG led council, government and a FG housing and minister for local authorities.

SF never controlled DCC.

SF did try to block numerous housing schemes during that period, never said they didn't. In fact I support them on all the ones I know of.

So you lied or are grossly misinformed about housing, how it works and that FG created and FF/FG/Green maintain a housing crisis.

Fact.

Do you really believe that stuff? The evidence that SF voters are more anti-vaxxer and anti-immigrant than other voters was asked for and then provided. Trying to explain it all away isn't going to work.

Don't let the facts get in the way. The subject will be quietly dropped and they won't be back on this issue.

Its a good read all the same.

Seems FIanna Fail destroyed the economy, but sure that's never mentioned. Fine Gael destroyed housing, but sure that wasn't them it was the ones giving out about Fine Gael ruining housing.

Everyone and their pet hamster knows its God awful FF and FG policy.

So we've a conundrum. The government have been doing a great job unless they weren't, then it wasn't them, it was SF. Seems legit.

Minister for housing must be as an important role as Zappone's :) :)

I thought this was the Sinn Fein thread. I am sure if you want to discuss FF and IMF etc the thread dedicated to those parties would be the best place.

No

I suggest you read back on the thread as this was already provided. See information below from Sinn Fein themselves.

Sinn Féin has welcomed the agreement between its Councillors on Dublin City Council and Independent, Labour & Green Councillors for the running of the City Council in the next five years. The agreement sets key priorities, including addressing the housing crisis and unemployment. The agreement will see a Sinn Féin Mayor of Dublin City in 2015/2016 and 2017/2018.

Now hang on a minute, according to the Sinn Fein press release, (and it is the Sinn Fein press release, not the Indo), "Our top priority will be to help address the housing crisis in our City". Well by 2019, they had done precisely nothing to address their top priority.

So it isn't anonymous posters saying that SF were in a position to do something, it was Sinn Fein themselves promising to address it as their top priority and zero was the outcome. If that isn't a complete failure of SF, then what is?