The evidence is clear from those opinion polls that SF voters are more anti-immigrant than other voters.
Allegations about one candidate don't stack up against that. This is nearly as bad as the idiocy yesterday where it was argued because one politician had anti-semitic views in the far distant past before he joined FG and Varadkar once said something against abortion that FG was suddenly a far-right party. The plural of anecdote is not data, it is more silliness.
Absolute gaslighting on the Glass Bottle Site mess. NAMA offered the site at a deep discount to DCC and Eoghan Murphy refused to finance the deal. That sh*tshow belongs to FG and they need to own it.
Just because some bumfluff researchers in their early 20s in FG HQ slapped together a document of Orwellian proportions trying to turn reality on its head with FG's bungled record on housing doesn't mean people will swallow it.
That's not logic really now is it? The claim was supported by a report from 2015 which stated the majority of the electorate wanted restrictions. This was all based on the claim SF voters, the public, didn't like immigrants. Direct Provision awaits.
Was FG supported a candidate wanted to put them into re-education camps.
I now know for certain Sinn Fein didn't control the council. Were you lying or just wrong? Nice subtle shift to include 'and their left wing colleagues', noted.
You are either giving SF credit for the great works in housing or admitting housing was bad and blaming SF. Can you clarify which?
If you didn't know that SF and their left-wing colleagues controlled Dublin City Council from 2014 to 2019 and blocked every solution to the housing problem, then you haven't really been following the issue closely.
The only logic to your response is that you are suggesting that Sinn Fein voters should instead vote for Verona Murphy because she reflects their views better.
Fair enough. They were the biggest party. This doesn't show they controlled housing in Dublin. That was the claim. FF/FG had more seats and the government. That was the 'discussion'.
As long as they go to the camps?
I post that SF were biggest party in DCC from 2014-2019. You questioned my recollection so I provide a link that confirms what I said.
Your response: "I suspect this is all you could find".
I think it's time to bring back Francie.
No they didn't.
FF 11
FG 9
SF 8
This is where you tell me in retrospect the council were right 😎
Less than FF/FG, but sure show me over the 7 or 8 year period? Says they were up 9 that election. I suspect this is all you could find. Also is the argument the government have no say in housing? Are we admitting it was woeful or giving credit to SF?
"Fine Gael supporters were strongest in support of offering to settle migrants with 61 per cent of them in favour while Sinn Féin voters were most strongly opposed with more than 70 per cent against the move"
"as far as you know, Fair enough"
But it's not is it?
They have blocked housing estates all across Dublin for made up reasons to make the housing issue worse. IT is very easy to find all the details and even FG released a document listing them all. How many people would be off the street if those 6000 houses got built?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%C3%A9in-has-opposed-building-of-6-000-homes-across-dublin-says-fine-gael-report-1.4602893
Offered to a SF led DCC for half price but was rejected and now in the hands of a property developer. Those terrible terrible developers.
They ran DCC into the ground and no houses got built, now are complaining about housing.
He claimed they were more anti immigrant than other parties. I showed FG courted and defended a woman wanted re-education camps. It's all there in the post you quoted.
So the majority of the electorate were vaccine hesitant and weary of too many immigrants. Seems fair.
Yes they'll have to make do with D4 apartments under FF/FG/Green and be glad of it 😎
What's that got to do with SF voters who I posted this morning are one of the highest against taking in Afghan refugees.
Consistent polls have shown this.
They will get a massive shock when they realise they won't be getting a free gaff ahead of da foreigners under SF.
Oh, as far as you know? Fair enough 😎
Aye, indeed.
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Sinn Fein voters tend to be more anti-immigrant than other parties.
As far as I know, Sinn Fein were the largest party in Dublin City Council from 2014 to 2019.
As far as I rember, they didn't manage to build many houses they did do other useful stuff such as flying the Palestinian flag from City Hall.
What prejudices? Be specific. Tell us what you really think about a large part of the population.
Complete made up nonsense.
Can you show proof SF led Dublin City Council during that seven to eight year period? No. It's made up.
What is the minister for housing and local authorities for, a figurehead for cutting ribbons? 😎
The poster claimed SF were 'the biggest stopper of housing in Ireland'. I asked for back up. He gave none. Now you are claiming they controlled housing in Dublin. Proof? None.
I would not take the word of a consistent liar currently under criminal investigation.
Well, we do know that SF voters are more likely to be anti-vaxxers so there might be evidence out there of other prejudices that they hold.
it's no less a silly statement, I guess there's as much evidence that sinn fein voters don't like catholics or muslims as there is that fg voters don't like homeless people or those in receipt of social welfare.
are statements like this really allowed to remain unchallenged?
If you had went to the bother of reading my post correctly,which you did'nt,you'd have read "sf voters",I never mentioned the party.
The brain drain effect of young Unionists moving to Britain for University and not returning to NI isn't a controversial statement; it is well known and discussed. Around ten seconds in Google;
Of particular concern is the high outflow from the North of those aged 15-24, with 10 per cent of the Northern-born cohort living in Britain. This reflects the fact that many young people choose to study in Britain after leaving school. This is especially significant for those teenagers from a unionist background.
Complete nonsense on both points, where's your evidence "Sinn Fein hate the protestant religion"?
And as for the Muslim comment.
Well as sf voters hate the protestant religion,who are christian people like themselves,their hardly going to like muslims now are they???
Looks like another poll on the journal has SF supporters among the highest who don't want to take in any Afghan refugees.
Totally against the parties stance.
Something doesn't add up.
In opposition you oppose bad policies, in government you get to implement good policies. Until SF are in government all the hating is just political hot air.
What is absolutely obvious is that the three current government members have had well over a decade to implement good policies and no new housing has been built. its as if they don't actually want to solve the crisis at all.
SF isn't actually offering any real solutions to housing, their populist agenda revolves around throwing money at the problem or suggesting that using public land will somehow magically make brickies and carpenters appear.
How exactly is Sinn Fein addressing O'Devaney Gardens?
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