I intensely dislike SF for their populism, but it's patently untrue that they are the biggest stopper of housing in Ireland.
You are the one who needs to do a little bit of research. Local government has been controlled in Dublin by SF over the last seven or eight years and they have done their utmost to prevent any housing development. As Varadkar pointed out in the Dail today, they speak with forked tongues.
This will literally be the slogan of the next election. That one will come back to haunt them.
'One person's rent is another person's income' is all we need to know about why FF/FG/Greens are happy to leave us in crisis.
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Plus the biggest stopper of housing in ireland is Sinn Fein, they are creating the crisis and then sitting back abd saying they will solve it. Of course they can help solving it if in government because they will stop rejecting every proposal
So I asked:
We are in crisis about ten or more years. What role did SF play? Was it asking FF/FG to stop making it worse or trying to block build to rents and leases for 25 years with no option to buy?
If you've no actual substance to add, I'll leave you to it.
If you read my post fully before rushing to pour scorn on it, you’d see the words “within commuting distance”. Many students from Clonmel get the bus to Waterford every day. Just one example, but it is very doable.
Where though? I'm not trying to trip you up by the way, as already mentioned I am from the north originally (S.Armagh) and moved away from home not for economic or employment opportunities, but because I met my wife (Dublin) whilst travelling through south East Asia, post university.
If you have these stats of the emigration levels from the north pre GFA v post GFA, I'd be interested in comparison, for my own curiosity.
So please, if could you oblige, as I genuinely cannot find where you did on the thread. Thank you.
What would you define commuting distance?
When I was back in college 10 years ago doing my postgrad, there was a girl in my class who would get the last bus home from Bus Aras to Galway. Our classes ended at 10 pm and the last bus was at 10:30 pm.
I suspect dudley was posting nonsense which they tried to pass off as factual, hoping not to be questioned on it. He has a bit of a tendency and history of doing it.
I did already if you read the thread
I will leave you to it….
I bet they have done a lot more than SF have, they don’t seem to have the ability to remember what they even voted for :-) shambles
Have you any stats on this?
And before you get the stats, what's the relevance to the mass exodus here when the ass fell out of things due to SF not being in govt can I ask?
I believe you might have either missed this, or else conveniently ignored it because you are unable to answer it. Can you let me know which of the two it is please.
You're not going to answer that poster no?
I'm interested in it as I'm originally from the north, and would like to see these stats you have.
SF voted along with the government so yes they are partly to blame, if they knew this was such a terrible idea why did they support it
Same with Paris agreement which so many blame the Greens on, SF supported it.
Your pals have been doing fanny all of that as well mind you.
Public transport and commuting is part of any government plan including the greens. Regenerating houses & villages is a lot better for environment than fancy new builds stacked and racked in a city
You seemed to ignore my question about people who left and have returned?
In regards to the question you asked, if you Google “Northern Ireland emigration” you will have your pick of information to back it up, unfortunately I don’t see anything which confirm the unionist comment above.
Commuting???
But "DE ENVIRONMENT" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eamon Ryan will be so angry at this suggestion his hair dye will fall out ☮️
There's no point in talking to FG acolytes about housing, their brain is hijacked. A decade in power and the housing situation is a smouldering mess and they seriously try to gaslight anyone who will listen that SF are somehow responsible for the car crash when they were at the wheel with an empty bottle of Jack Daniels in their hand.
The only reason that housing became a live or die election issue was that they recognised it as the slow-motion car social train wreck it was and got far out ahead of the governing parties with policy. The other two parties spent a 10 years p*ssing down the leg of young citizens. Developments like the O'Devaney Gardens one were objected to for very good reason - the deal that was cut and put in front of DCC was outrageous and represented a gift to Bartra wrapped up in a little bow.
Here’s a radical idea. How about students living within commuting distance living at home? Save parents a fortune.
So SF agreeing with the government and helped create the problem should be ignored?
or the fact they are blocking houses now which is making the issue worse should also be ignored?
It’s always those pesky unionists fault isn’t it? Sorry but that has to be the most ridiculous statement I seen on here
You forget about all the people from every back ground who live and work in the Rep?
Or all the people who live and work in Rep Monday to Friday and only go to North at weekend? We not supposed to talk about them?
Best you do some research and leave the empty one liners to other government spin merchants.
If you listening to the video SF voted for the article with the government, so they are partly to blame
Also they had the chance on DCC to buy a huge Chuck of land at a reduced cost for housing and wouldn’t
Best you look into all the issues, the PR machine from SF is telling a bunch of lies
Plus the 100 of thousands?
Most of the drain from Northern Ireland, is students from a unionist background studying in the UK. Once they graduate, they won't return home.
"You will find the drain from Northern ireland is constant and permanent, even after the Good Friday, something we should not be looking to emulate"
How many are still gone?
You will find the drain from Northern ireland is constant and permanent, even after the Good Friday, something we should not be looking to emulate
The last time their was a mass exodus of workers was post 2010 when SF I mean FF were in power, I remember it well.
The two party system has produced an unsustainable housing situation with many people effectively homeless and many people with no prospect of getting a home or even a rented room. There are obscene profitering in the rented sector and no will to rain it in because those who have the power to do so are profiting from it. Its a crisis thats been 40years in the making and a serious alternative strategy needs putting in place to cure the crisis. SF are literally the only party proposing the hard controls and interventions to return property to its rightful purpose - providing homes not income. Veradkar and his ilk are the source of this crisis and his feigned offense is laughable and an insult to the 100's of thousands suffering under the housing market he and his party have wrought.
Be careful using the word chilling, it's a word used by FFG in the Dail when describing SF.
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