can i get a pm naming the enniskillen installer
On the way
I can't get near some of the prices here and have gone with the companies recommended. I'm stuck with limited roof and ground space so will only get 8 panels on a south-facing roof there is an east-facing roof the same size but none of the installers is keen on it.
The cheapest quote I have from the SaaS co for a 2.5kw system with a water diverter(-€1200 without) is €4200 after grant incl BER
Next up for a 3kw system with water diverter(-€400 without) is €4950 after grant incl BER and the last quote I have for a 2.7kw system with water diverter (-€400 without) is €5400 after grant and no BER from our Northern friends.
I'm thinking I might go with the SaaS guys and drop the water diverter as it looks like it can be DIY'd(Brother in law is a Sparks) and wouldn't interfere with the solar system itself?
Saas is the way to go.
It's 2400 after grant for 7 panels and then pay another 400 up front for your eight panel.
Do the diverter DIY.
I've asked for a price for 8x380w if they can do them but I think I'll be going with the SaaS guys regardless.
If you’re planning the saas guys, order it ASAP if you want it installed by spring, they are extremely slow. I gave them the go ahead 2 months ago after I got the quote, I’ve had the pre BER done by them and then no contact in over 3 weeks since.
In talking to the boss when he was at my place, they are having trouble getting parts in and are just swamped with orders.
They should be coming back to people though
Yea I spoke with him also. I got the impression they’re very busy too.
My Pre-BER was completed on the 2nd Sep, I haven’t heard a word back since, despite sending them an email(the usual method of communication)
I hope it’s not gonna be a the same if I ever get it installed and need support
Hopefully they won't be increasing the prices as time goes on. I have tried contacting them via phone and email with no reply. When I was calling yesterday I got a text message saying that they would get back to me. Let's see how long I am waiting.
Why a Pre BER, if you have a reasonable home then you only need a Post BER, look to other houses of similar era sold recently in your area for BER indication e.g. in same estate
I don't think that's where it came from, it came from the SaaS offering of a 2.5kW array for 2,400 end cost to the user. That really put the prices of other suppliers into perspective and cost per kW installed is the best metric to compare quotes
Doesn't the house need to be at least a C3 in order to qualify for the grant? I'd say a lot of houses that haven't been bought/sold since the BER requirement came in will never have had a BER done.
When I applied for my grant and put in my MPRN, they were able to tell me the house was a C3 as it was tested in 2014 prior to going on sale for when we bought it.
Using myself as an example, I looked at recent house sales in the estate and current ones too, they all had BER quotes and the worst one was original 70's windows and had something like an F (if that exists) rating, another house had the double glazing etc done and was a D something, based on that and knowing what else I had done to our own place I went with Post BER only, ended up with a B1 but should have been in the A but BER crowd downgraded my oil burner even though I have efficeincy tests proving it was above the magic 86% ( I think it's 86% ), silly system.
Deffo better than B1 now in any case as added additional 3.3kWp string since initial PV install
I'd like to think I also moved up from C3 to perhaps C2 since we moved in... Attic converted and insulated with modern insulation, new composite front door completely sealing off any draughts, and an inset stove replacing an open gas fire.
What should a 3-4kW solar system & Battery/Eddi increase a BER rating by does anybody know?
It's just the kWp that's relevant, battery/EDDI etc are not taken into account, there's a formula here somewhere if the new Boards had a decent search facility!
Yeah, you've got to have moved it up a bit Andy. Some other ones (which you've probably done?) are replacing your old halogens with LEDs and slapping a lagging jacket on the immersion tank and irrespective of the BER rating, you should do anyway. I put a 2nd lagging jacket on my own one there recently as the one which was there was a bit ragged to be honest. Gaps where it didn't quite fit etc.
Hard to tell the improvement, but it does seem like the water stays warm for longer. Course that might be me assigning positive bias towards it.....
yep, I also have the new stainless factory insulated immersion tank I forgot to mention, and the entire house is lit with Philips Hue LED bulbs...
Mine was a d2 when I bought it. Put in a new oil boiler and a door in the hallway. It went to a C1 and jumped to B3 after the panels went in.
LOL !
Them Philips Hue blubs - you gotta love em' ! Until you realize how much you've spent on "flamin' light bulbs" alone after 6 months when you've done like 20-30 of them.
I have a published BER from 5years ago already, not much has changed except LEDs and from what I can tell from the solar quote, I would make the grant, they just want to be sure I think, the dude doing the BER mentioned any upgrades to insulation you need to keep the receipts for proof
I had my walls insulated but couldn't prove it as the paperwork was missing when I bought the house. He couldn't include it even though he could see the beading
That seems like a low impact from the solar panels - C1 to B3? I would have thought they'd have a bigger impact on the BER than that.
Interesting to note the massive jump from the boiler and door upgrades though.
I only got 3.24kw.
I replaced an old Stanley oil range with a high efficiency boiler. Also took out all the 60 w tungsten bulbs and put in led
From what I understand the way it's calculated changed as well.
Happened to me as well but my good wife had all the photos I took during the re build So we could prove what work was done. Went from a c3 to a B2.
With the B2 we have now moved our mortgage to AIB green rate of 2.15% from 3.2% with Ulster Bank.
So all is a winner in my book. Its not all about pay back time. Less oil bought and a cheaper mortgage.
Yep, I'll be honest - it's the AIB green rate that is my primary driver, but our house is a C3, and it looks like getting solar plus battery won't bring it to the necessary B3.
Having said that, other improvements we've made since the C3 rating was done would all help.
Good idea, I do plan a new boiler, to insulate the inner walls and the attic after Christmas, so I’ll keep photos and the receipts for future use.
the whole BER cert seems to be a minefield.
Thanks fully I've no mortgage but you've definitely hit a winner with the cheaper rate.
Another thing I did was to put those sealing strips down all the doors as well as a draught proof strip under them.
Removed the strips after it was over so I could close the doors but it all adds up
Hi Folks,
Would those who have gotten solar installed (and were happy with price/install) around the Dublin/ Kildare Naas area mind sending along a PM with installers details.
Thanks in advance
For comparison I topped up attic and pumped walls and it moved me up one notch from C3 to b3.
A 5.7kwp system then moved it up to A3.
Not sure your door will make a difference to a BER. Also no idea how much difference the stove makes as you're still burning fuel. Maybe between this and the attic you'll move to C2.
A 4kw might move another 2 notches I reckon.
A new door will definitely have some effect on your BER assuming the new door has more insulation that the previous one. Just note the kWp of your panels does not mean every house will jump the same amount in their BER assessment as it also takes account size of property.
There is a thread on this https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058191951/typical-ber-improvement-after-solar-pv-install
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