RTE's new 8 episode gangland drama with an all star cast.
AMC start date is September 9th I can't see a start date for RTE just a coming soon.
Dam. Had high hopes for this but its shocking.
A generic poorly written script and dialogue so far, and some surprisingly shoddy and nonchalant acting from what is a solid cast.
The only saving grace was some amazing visuals and camera work in episode 1.
Michael seems to be responsible for his kids mothers death going by what was said last night, guess that will come out in later episodes.
I know it can't be all shooting every minute but it was a bit slow compared to the opening episode.
Frank getting his lolly licked by the barman was a bit random unless its setting up a scenario where his sexuality will be used to blackmail him.
Really? I don't think he had to stretch himself too much to play that role.
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Don’t forget the women too in love/hate, the brothel Madame that nidge was banging, the hit woman who shot Darren, Darren sister, siobhan, all great characters.
John Connors was a great character too in love/hate.
The bull
Early Love/Hate was dreadful, amateur hour .......there was an early episode on Rte2 last night, it was laughably bad compared to what it later became ........if you've ever seen Boyzone's first ever tv appearance (late late show I think) ........that was series 1 and 2 of L/H 🤣
The blurry camera shots are starting to annoy me. I’m not expecting a love letter to Dublin or anything, but it’s always good to spot certain landmarks in Dublin dramas and I know where exactly a scene is being shot. You can barely even see the background half of the time.
Having said that, I did find it mildly amusing when Frank was in the car with Eamon and they were approaching the East Link toll bridge and he goes “this isn’t the way to the airport”. Yes, it is - go over the toll bridge and take the Port Tunnel 😁
Like watching paint dry.
I think you're 100% on the money here and the hinted romantic past with Mikey will be her webs to control the action with... there's a sense that he was the real hard-man of the family before his arrest and you can see him being set up to be so again but dancing to her tune rather than his uncle's.
You can see the AMC influence in this. You'd think 30% of the population of Dublin are black.
Nah, she's annoying.
Speaks too slow. Like Tommy from Love/Hate after his brain damage.
Just on the background music - completely forgettable.
For me Claire Dunne is the mvp as Amanda, great acting
I'm enjoying it
It is miles better than some shite RTE has put out before
I feel like Jimmy is disposable. Michael is not. Amanda is not. Frank is not. Viking is, but they will get mileage out of him first.
"Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaares Riiiiiiiiiiidin" ,every episode, you wouldn't get away with that sort of scene now
Kweeeeeeeeeeeeelon Moore , hate the way he says the name
John Boy protecting Hughie same as Frank protecting Eric the Viking, I can see Jimmy or the missus Amanda going after both Frank and Eric
I have a theory about this, it's widely rumoured in discussions about Irish gangland that it was the mother of one of the high profile victims who bankrolled and directed the revenge attacks. I could easily see a scenario in which Amanda gets fed up of waiting for the family to respond and goes on some kind of solo run. So far the show is taking a number of cues from rumours about real-life developments in recent Irish gangland feuds, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the route they went down - particularly if Jimmy or Michael gets himself shot during an attempted reprisal.
So far as a crime/gangster drama it's very boring. The amount of screen time given to Amanda when she's just a bit player in the family is just crazy. If 90% of the sopranos was set at home with Carmella fawning over AJ and crying and barely any of the crime/Mafia side, it wouldn't have gotten passed the first 2 episodes.
I thought last weeks episode was enjoyable but had an idea this weeks would be very predictable, there was going to be a load of tears crying over the lad that got killed, which took up half the show and the next part them planning revenge. I had hoped there would be more character building. Frank coming out as being gay is that going to be worked in the story line or was it just for shock value?
There's still plenty of time for the show to mature but it looks to be following a set of guidelines that appears in other gangster shows.
Also I don't think it's shot very well, the lighting is awful in parts or maybe drab and depressing is the style they want.
Couldn’t think of his name - Mick the Bull, used to go on about “rriiddiinngg”. It reminded me of the mothers weird conversation at her son about riding. That was odd enough in ep 1 - but there seemed to be heavy hints that Michael is the dead son’s biological father, which makes the ‘the night you were conceived’ conversation even weirder.
Impersonating who?
I think he means she was impersonating him.
What "lad from the Savage Eye"? I had a look at the cast of the Savage Eye and I'm not sure who, or what, you are talking about. It's probably just me!
So if Michael (ex-con) is Jamie’s (dead son) biological father, WTF does that make the conversation where the mother was doing the lad from the Savage Eye going on about “riiiiidding”. Even weirder now than it already was.
I know it's off topic, but I don't think Tommy actually died. He got beaten up badly by Nidge and was in hospital for a while and was not the same after that. I think he had a relapse at some point as well, but I don't recall him dying.
For the record, I am enjoying Kin so far. Having seen a few repeats of Love/Hate, I thought it was compelling all the way through, including the first season that some people thought wasn't great. As I said before, Kin was always going to suffer by comparisons with Love/Hate. In fact, to some extent, other non-crime-related dramas shown on RTE have been compared against Love/Hate.
Whats annoying me now is the blurry focus of the camera and the half a scene shot then switching to the other side of the same scene. I dont know much about camera work and how to shoot a tv show but this is really annnoying me for some reason.
Story is all a bit bland at the moment and will give it another episode or so.
Yes the amount of people who just want pew-pew-pew action ALL THE TIME in dramas are just ridiculous. There has to be time to let the characters breathe and settle into their own space. I much prefer dramas where the layers of a character are peeled back slowly. For example, there is definitely more to the Michael/Amanda relationship that we have been let see so far. Their first sight of each other after his release from prison gave a hint of this as well as the discussion between the brothers last night.
However there are a couple of very one-dimensional characters so far including Eric who seems very one note.
