Lots of nationalists up here are spinning it that he was just right because he is the president of the whole island.
so if I am so stupid. Let’s here what some posters think.
simple question. Is he the president of nationalists living in County Down? Don’t duck and dive. Yes or no will suffice
I agree with that as it’s sensible. This was the four churches. They made a mistake.
it did highlight though what he must really think he resides over. He has no problem that his football team is called roi.
I completely get that it should have been the president of Ireland. But hey, the tizzy only demonstrates a serious insecurity.
as for protocol. Do you think If I google that your government always refers to OWC as it’s official title ie ni, not the north ?
Please head over to the dedicated thread for discussion of the invitation to the President to attend the partition anniversary event in Armagh
Mairaid Mcguinness got a bit hot under the collar this morning when Andrew Marr asked her what the Eu will do, as it is evident the Uk have grace period after grace period and have no intentions of placing additional checks on Irish see and are confident that the Eu will not put checks in Ireland.
she ranted but had no answers.
It must get tiresome to go out of your way to deliberately misspell the name of your perceived "enemies" and misrepresent every interview to suit your narrative.
The BBC don't mention her as ranting in their article on the interview.
You really don't make sense anyhow. You want what's best for NI and you have mentioned that the NIP is working for the people of NI. So why do you still attack the politicians who are standing up for the people of NI. Are you really wanting NI to follow England to having petrol station queues and reduced McDonald's menus? Are you really wanting to risk peace in NI over a perceived loss of sovereignty that Lord Frost and others have already said wasn't affected.
You would have to ask how long they think they can get away with the 'protocol was 'designed' to harm NI' bunkum.
It is already clear the Protocol is protecting NI.
It is little wonder that there has been civic unrest in Northern Ireland (irishtimes.com)
Interesting extracts from an interview with Emily Maitlis about the negotiation of the Northern Ireland Protocol. Obviously Maitlis has been briefed by Donaldson that the NIP is not working despite how NI is faring quite comfortably when compared to GB.
Remarkable how Barnier is able to keep a straight face at times!
Michel Barnier "What creates problems in Ireland is brexit and nothing else"
It is interesting the comments. Most people in the North are saying the protocol is not causing major problems and believe the North is doing better than Britain regarding the problems brexit has caused.
Good to see unionists agreeing about something. https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/the-unionist-parties-come-together-to-reject-the-northern-ireland-protocol-and-call-for-its-replacement-with-arrangements-that-respect-nis-place-in-uk-3398717
😁😁 even the SDLP can see the ridiculousness of the Unionist position.
Matthew O'Toole on Twitter: "Spokesman said: "Unacceptable that NI should be different from the rest of the UK. "Will be demanding urgent guarantees from HM Govt that we enjoy the same fuel crisis as GB and no perfidious sea border protecting our supply."" / Twitter
Have the unionist leaders indicated what exactly the NIP should be replaced by yet?
Glad to see Beattie rowing in behind the other two, in Donaldson and Allister.
I was getting worried the last while that unionism might have a competent leader who would show leadership.
Not necessarily. I'm old enough to remember the Brady Amendment, in which the Tories finally reached agreement about something - namely, that they didn't like the backstop that the May government had negotiated and they wanted something else, but were unable to say what. The "something else" they got was the NIP Protocol.
In fact, there's a striking resemblance to the Brady Amendment. The Unionist parties are agreed that they don't like the protocol, but they have no clue about what might replace it.
Unionists, famously, never learn from history. If they did, wouldn't think that unionists agreeing about something was automatically "good to see", without regard to what it is that they have agreed about.
That is a pithy and accurate summation of the entire inanity of the hard-line unionist position. A desperation to legislatively align with the mainland at the expense of the Norths prosperity and stability. Realpolitik should have leaders rubbing their hands in glee at NI shielding itself from the slide into privation going on in Britain - and yet. A loud cantankerousness against a protocol they agreed to.
All that said, come the next elections I guarantee we'll still see these representatives voted in, purely as a default reaction and bullwark to the Other Side tipping the scales. They should be punished for imperilling the NI economy, but with the UUP buying into this victim complex there are no sane voices left. Can't see Alliance swooping in and getting the baffled floating voters.
Not good at searching back but you’ll all be aware I have been told many times on this thread and others that I am ‘Irish’ because I was born on the landmass Ireland which of course is nonsense.
I was having a chat to a Canadian yesterday and took the opportunity to suggest that he was American as he was born on the landmass called America
you can imagine he give me a short shift 😂
About as much nonsense as being 'British' because you were born and live on the landmass that isn't GB in fairness.
That's because the Canadians have allowed "American" to be claimed by the United States of America even though, obviously, the United States of America is not the whole of the Americas, and there is no other adjective to refer to the Americas.
The Canadians in going along with this bit of US imperialism are the exception here, not the rule. South of the US border - and there are a lot of countries south of the US border - they are keen to assert their American-ness, and they resist allowing the US to appropriate the term. As they point out, if "American" referred just to the US, there would be no need for the word "Yanqui", would there?
hmmm, the NIP seems to be working just fine...
Yes absolutely agree with you. Both positions would be absurd. The one you outline would make everyone in the world except those born in GB british - probably even more absurd than being Irish because you were born on the Island of Ireland.
Thankfully my Britishness makes complete sense as it is based on me being born within the jurisdiction of the UK of GB & NI and holding a full british passport
Let's not rehash the Britishness point. Anyone from NI can be Irish, British or both.
Great news. I guess they have the same confidence as me that the checks will be sorted out
Which checks do you think they believe will be removed?
Or they may just carry a reduced product line.
Blindboy talks about 'gas cuntism' sometimes, he'd enjoy some of your work Downcow;)
You're from Ireland who's demonym is Irish, which makes it factual you are Irish. You seem to think that being Irish and holding British citizenship are mutually exclusive?
Entertain me on what your definition of being Irish is? To be from Ireland and also being a SF supporter???
Sorry let me stop saying checks as that is not the issue but rather the outcome. It’s rules that imho they will not implement Eg the blocking of Uk sausages
Well it depends what you mean eg a fluffy feeling or something objective. I could care less if a 10th gestation American call themselves Irish. And I really don’t want to go over it all again. If I find myself needing help anywhere in the world the authorities will regard me as British and expect the brits to step up and look after me. I don’t believe I have any claim to help from the Irish.
I think if I go for a job in Eu they won’t let me b cause they will say I’m a Brit etc
"Tell the Catholic Church leader who is one of the main organisers. Some people here think the world revolves around the Oirish I suppose they should all know the rules of hurly to?"
A triple "them-uns" post and all within 2 sentences!
Impressive work sir. The bipolar divide is alive and well.
But you're from Ireland which makes you Irish.... that's all it means.
Despite being from Dublin I am not a Dubliner, because when I go abroad and need help anywhere the authorities will regard me as Irish..... Do you realise how stupid you sound.
Or they might start sourcing food in Ireland/EU and exporting into the GB shops!
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