He didn`t realize he was giving the game away. There may have been no clean up at the murder scene. Nothing beats a good fire though.
this was 1996 not 1886. Most people had film cameras lying around
So basically we just have to take Bailey's word for it? Fine.
wow that is interesting. First time I heard that. Is it a recent Mail on Sunday?
They didn`t understand the consequences at the time. Jules didn`t know who was responsible.
It's about 300yds from the studio to the R591 road,
the route Bantry gards would take to the crime scene.
It's quite possible Bailey knew there was something afoot almost immediately.
Yes another plausible scenario is that Shirley was driving out the gate at 8.15 when she saw the body. Plenty time to think. Why would Alfie necessarily rush to call the Guards? I mean he must have had a lot of things racing through his mind, not least that he and Shirley could get blamed for this since they were the only ones around.
Do you have a link to this article? Nothing showing up on the web for Patrick Lowney and the Mail on Sunday or any other reports that he withdrew his statement.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sophie+witness+No2+'out'.-a0163320389
Here you go, Its all I could find. I had a look myself for Mail on Sunday and could find nothing either.
It says this at the bottom
And let's not forget that before chasing around that morning after a story he shouldn't have known about, old Iain was working hard the day before getting ready for Christmas then was out drinking that night, went for a late night hike, chased down and battered someone to death with rocks, walked out to kilfeadda Bridge, had a good refreshing wash in the night tide, walked home, did a bit of work on an article and made Jules a coffee.
May 14 2007 was a Monday when The Mirror were rehashing it, so assumedly it was print in May 13 2007s Mail on Sunday.
Indeed, in the French trial the prosecutor wondered, if IB really was under pressure to get this article written for the next day, what was he doing faffing about cutting down christmas trees, killing turkeys and playing the bodhran in the pub.
But even you must admire the constitution of this superman who can be up and rambling about the morning after such events. Or would you be well fit for all that too? How much sleep do you think he got?
Gardai combed through the rubble of the fire and found nothing of note, they talk about it on the West Cork podcast.
If faffing about and submitting thrown together work late is a criteria for a brutal murder, we're going to have to suspect about 95% of the entire workforce and 99% of students.
why did Bailey not win the court case then?
They even awarded costs against him. In order to prove corruption you have to show there was some benefit or advantage gained, it's clear the gardai knew their case was circumstancial and so many witnesses were 'close but no cigar', no evidence planted, no witnesses coerced, no brutality or bribing. The witnesses who had claimed this all fell apart under cross examination, even a former DPP and his accusation that the gardai made an improper approach to the state solicitor. There was nothing. Judge Hedigan even remarked that the major issues which were statute barred would have been ruled against him if they hadn't been.
Which court case?
All of them?
A detective on one of the docs said there were lace eyelets in the fire. So shoes or boots then.
I`d imagine it would be very hard to sleep after committing a murder.
Do you know what documentary by any chance? Would be interested to hear what he said
I think it was the grey haired guy with glasses. Netflix I think.
He's in the West Cork podcast as well, Eugene Gilligan. He said there were buttons, eyelets from boots and bits of clothing but nothing that could be directly linked to the murder itself.
Sporina was asking why Bailey didn't win a case where the fact that pages had been cut out of a Jobs Book in Bantry garden station in December 1996 at the specific time Ian Bailey became a suspect. In which court case was this spoken about?
Especially in the circumstances of this one. You'd be masively pumped for hours afterward.
Moonunit is using you to confuse the issue, muddy the waters as usual. You asked why since it is known that a Garda station Jobs Book (Evidence book) was tampered with Bailey hadn't won a court case. This only came to light about 3 years ago after Bailey's court cases. GSOC had grave concerns but mysteriously did not send their findings to the DPP, possibly because it would have been very serious for some Gardai.
Judge Hedigan made a discovery order for GSOC to hand over documentation on their investigation to IB's legal team before and during the trial.
Also coat buttons.
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