Must be some hardcore stoner goats that ate that crop. I wonder is Banniseda beginning to wonder if maybe she wasn't as close to Alfie and Shirley as she thought.
As with so many things in this case, like the 'honest' investigator who took Jules Thomas' statement being maligned on a recorded conversation by his colleagues, something was committed to paper that was so regretful the law had to be broken to rectify the mistake. Ms Johnson? WTF? it's the way you tell 'em
Interesting that not only Leo Bolger but Alfie Lyons got arrested regarding the marijuana growing too..
Thanks for that. I didn't have that insight. I'd say for one who's been educated in Oxford, and Harris having a degree from Cambridge, it could have mattered... :-)
It was opened up to international selection for a reason... reason being so many senior Gardai with skeletons in the closet or just not up to scratch. A new broom was needed.
"GSOC said it was unable to clarify when the interference may have taken place other than believing it was likely to have occurred since a review of the file in 2002, but possibly as far back as the 1990s.
The commission said it had considered whether the interference with the Jobs Book warranted sending a file to the DPP, but they had chosen not to on the basis that one of the main gardaí who had responsibility for the documents had since died."
Had the McNally Review of 2002 been a genuine review, with access to these pages, it would without doubt have placed serious emphasis on the reason Ian Bailey became a suspect early on. There is an attempt by objectionable people to suggest that either they were a) seen but considered of so little importance they didn't warrant a mention or b) were simply overlooked. Neither is credible . They were obviously so explosive that it was decided to take the risk of removing them, whether before or after makes no difference as their contents were not going to be allowed get near the DPP. If after, it was very likely on the instruction of somebody carrying out the review.
Shouldn't GSOC have alerted the DPP in any case? Wouldn't the DPP have been more qualified in deciding on how to proceed? This more than any other element of the GSOC review indicates why it took so long. As with all the reviews, unreliable witnesses and the original joke of a file sent to the DPP, everything about this case has been about muddying the waters and dragging it out for all it's worth.
Even if one has decided on Ian Bailey's guilt, it indicates a complete indifference to Jules Thomas for all the faux sympathy expressed about her experience of domestic violence.
No, as far as I know, nothing negative about Drew Harris. I wish him well in the role.
The point is, that he was appointed (ex RUC) in an attempt to tackle the poisonous organisational culture that had taken root in the GS.
A culture that is evident in this investigation.
It's Leo Bolger, not Leo Bulger, I take it. He's the one doing cannabis and in the end, didn't go to jail, even though what he had would have given him at least a 10 year if not life sentence. I wouldn't rely on Leo Bolger as a witness same as I wouldn't Marie Farrell.
Regarding Drew Harris, I don't know anything wrong or corrupt about him? Only he's from the North and been appointed to the Garda in Ireland. That was some international selection process, I think? Father got killed by the IRA?
Not all Guards are corrupt that would be a bit too obvious you might be spotted by an honest policeman.
Like the one in the Bandon tape being threatened for noting honest unbiased view of a witness statement which didnt tally with the agenda.
But certainly can steer an investigation in one way or another, lean on a witness etc
Some Guards engage in shady practice because they think Bailey did it and want to help things along, some because he is the most likely suspect they can get a result with regardless of his actual guilt, some because of group agenda again regardless of actual guilt.
€ivi€ duty...
No doubt he was compelled by a sense of civic duty.............................
Obviously much wasn't done correctly in this investigation but if you was going to 'frame' somebody wouldn't you do it properly and plant incriminating evidence at the murder scene? Hair samples, clothes, used glass etc etc.
You'd have to wonder why Leo was so forthcoming to protect newspapers from paying out millions to Bailey
The majority of Bailey’s claims against the Gardai were statute barred (or out of time). Only two in relation to MF statements were ruled on.
Nonsensical reply.
The issue is far broader, far deeper and for more damning that that. As I am sure you are aware.
The entire Bailey investigation is symptomatic of a long standing, toxicity in the organisational culture of the Garda Siochana. And that is reflected in the GSOC report (albeit nice and politely), the DPP report, the comments of the Director himself and, ultimately, the desperate attempt by the government to bring an out of control GS force under some sort of order by bringing in an outsider. It was a de facto admission, by the government, that the decline was terminal without drastic action.
A very public, very painful, slap in the face.
It is embarrassing I have to say, we need someone from the RUC to actually run this countries police in a half decent manner. No doubt he has a big job on his hand too. The ONLY reason why this absolutely horrific murder hasnt been solved is because of thicko gards like O'Dwyer and other corrupt gards running this case. The documentaries have been spread around the world now, 160 countries at least. It a **** shambolic catastrophe and on top of everything, were still trying to condemn a man who hasnt even been charged for this crime. Its horrific on all levels.
Thanks for that. I would always have thought that the house about 200 meters from Sophie's as well as Alfie and Shirley's house would have been the place where this visually impaired neighbour would have lived who heard the car sometime at night.
The house on the left side, shortly after turning off the main road appears to be new? However not certain. I haven't been to the area in many years, and if I am there, I don't go there, just out of respect.
Things also do change there, if not as quickly as anywhere else. Alfie and Shirley's house seems to have been painted, same as Ian Bailey's "studio" seem to have been enlarged and also painted differently.
Quite right,
Leo Bulger is a criminal.
A drug dealer. Responsible for who knows how much misery and corruption of youth.
His credibility is indeed zero.
I would add that, when the Gardai are reduced to incentivising scum like him to underpin their efforts to incriminate an innocent man, it is easy to see why the government were forced to attempt put a stop to the whole toxic circus by appointing Drew Harris.
Drew Harris. An RUC man. Running the Garda Siochana.
That's where garda malpractice. corruption, gombeen cute-hoorism has led us. And its typified in every toxic episode of this investigation.
Oh really MoonUnit75, so pray tell, tell us what you do work at? Private investigator on behalf of the government is it?
I'll let you in on a little secret, I don't work in the public sector.
Happens to me loads, even more so in the past, it's not so much a rural thing as a rural West of Ireland thing.
Great, so ask your bosses to pull their head out of their asses, set up a task force and properly investigate this crime like it should have been done in the first place. Then we can hopefully bring some sort of resolution to STDP familes like they should have done in the first place. And everyone can move on
He's the lowest of the low, a drug supplier, gas you are clinging to him now since your gsoc & Judge reports have found to be completely bogus. He'd say anything to anyone for a bit of money, wouldnt be one bit surprised if the papers paid him a couple of grand. He has zero credibility in anything.
You think gardai would jot down illegal plans to frame a suspect alongside entries about Ms. Johnson seeing a suspicious man stealing eggs with a crazy look in his eye? This isn't a TV show.
For once, I'm in total agreement.
The first reporter seems to think the DPP outlined 'illegal' acts by the gardai in the 2001 report, that's not true.
Both articles were written before the High Court judgement that dismissed IB's claim of being framed. Having heard all that IB's legal team could throw at the state, he concluded that the grounds for suspicion were so strong, even excluding Marie Farrell, that they would have been derelict in their duty if they had not arrested him. He was not framed.
yes, probably worth a try..if only to clear his name and kill the lingering rumours. Rumours which seem to have been re-ignited recently.
If DNA could be extracted from the residue on Sophie's boot, then it may be possible to eliminate him through familial DNA testing.
Leo Bolger had told the legal team for the newspaper's defence about seeing IB meet Sophie in 2003, so it wasn't that he just happened to remember when he was up on the cannabis charge. This is covered in the West Cork podcast.
From Google earth timeline the house about 200m up the cul de sac from the junction with the main road was built sometime between 2003 and 2009.
At the time of the murder the nearest neighbours other than Alfie + Shirley would have been on the 'main' road either north towards Dunmanus pier or south towards Kealfadda Bridge, both about a mile by road.
No, generally you don't.
But if you're made aware that you liberty depends on certain memories becoming crystal clear, then your powers of recall suddenly become turbo-charged.
Nothing like the prospect of a ten year stretch to focus the mind..............
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