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F1 2021 Round 14: Monza

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Does Mercedes still have an edge on this power circuit?

New this week: Sprint Qualifying on Saturday.

Schedule:

FP1: Fri, 10 Sept 13:30

Quali: Fri, 10 Sept 17:00

FP2: Sat, 11 Sept 11:00

Sprint: Sat, 11 Sept 15:30

Race: Sun, 12 Sep 14:00

Weather Forecast: Fine and dandy.

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Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117878162#Comment_117878162

You have to ask yourself tho, if your so often ahead of your teammate that you need to be asked to move aside with such regularity… might you be as fast a driver on race day???

McFly85

Really surprised with Hamilton’s start but makes for a fantastic race tomorrow. Him versus the McLarens will be interesting early on. I expect the story of the race will be can he get by them, and can he do it quick enough to put a challenge into Max.

But I wouldn’t rule out a McLaren win either, they’ve looked great this weekend. Already can’t wait!

flazio

Remember what Daniel is playing for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1377206708708196352?s=19

Charlie-Bravo

Is nerves getting the best of Lewis now he's being challenged at the front consistently? It's been too easy for him for years, but now, little negatives such as a poor start are really emphasised when the other cars around him are decent challengers.

And it seems that the Merc isn't as dominant on the Monza circuit when running out of battery at the end of each lap. It's such a power track, that trying to regen for one lap will leave you far behind the driver in front on the next lap.

He'll have a tough race on Sunday, but suspect a bit of luck with pitstops and safety cars, with help team strategy will get him up a few spots.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117878293#Comment_117878293

You could ask, but the answer would be pretty apparent. Bottas is a decent driver and occasionally is as fast or even faster than Hamilton. He gets no hop in these threads but he's a good, decent driver and this has probably been his least competitive season against Hamilton. Yet he qualified in first while playing the diligent no.2 and ploughing the air for Hamilton. That's a great performance.

Who knows, maybe Perez will some day reach out of mediocrity and get ahead of Max every once in a while too. As it stands he qualifies so poorly that he's never likely to get ahead of Max in a race on merit.

Bottas and perez are held to totally different standards. Bottas has failed to be a genuine challenge to Hamilton as an equal driver. Perez is miles off Max but gets credit because he was a decent no.2 for the first part of the season. He's on a poor run of form in the last few races though. If you had the choice of Bottas or Perez I'd pick Bottas all day long, he's just a faster driver.

El_Duderino 09

It seemed pretty clear that Hamilton was faster than Lando, but he couldn't get past the mclaren with a Mercedes engine. The safety car helped the mclarens to preserve preserve their soft tyres. Softs were a gamble and it paid off. On the same tyre I'd expect Hamilton to have gotten past one or both of the mclarens. He can use strategy in the race and they'll probably all start on the mediums, so I'd expect him to get up to second after the pit stop.

Passing max with with Honda might be easier than passing the mclaren with a Mercedes engine. But catching and passing max might be too much to ask after being held up and passing the mclarens.

PsychoPete

I think Verstappen will be too far ahead by the time Hamilton gets passed the two Mclarens

2011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117879392#Comment_117879392

It is possible that Ricarrdo will pas Max right at the start. This could be due to a different tyre choice or just a better launch. I'm a Max fan, so I hope this will not be the case, but Ricarrdo is good so this possiblity can not be ruled out. Combine this with a good strategy from Mercedes plus a little luck and Hamilton could quite easily finish ahead of Max.

Dont be at yourself

66/1 for the top 3 to finish as they line up on the grid. Insane value. I know the McLarens were on softs yesterday but Hamilton didn’t lay a glove on them, and I can’t see him risk a DNF by sending it up the inside into a chicane.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117878924#Comment_117878924

He wasn't clear cut faster at all. Norris was never even defending the line so it does seem that the McLaren is genuinely fast at this circuit.

Merc saved a boat load of softs but now the medium is a factor after the sprint race. I still see him getting on the podium but in race trim, the RB seems fairly handy and the straightline speed is negated in the race when you can't run the battery at full tilt for too long. Seems the Merc uses up a lot of theirs over the lap as well and derate towards the end of the straights.

Could be a great race, or a procession.

Itssoeasy

I wouldn’t be betting on anything until they all get passed the first corner because that could be a mess, because all it takes is one driver to mess up their breaking into the corner and there could be distance boards being smashed and people taking the escape route. It’s why Lewis being in fourth isn’t great.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117879480#Comment_117879480

I can, I saw it already. Silverstone.

rameire

Hamilton and Norris to collide on the first corner.

Itssoeasy

The US open win crosses over to the F1.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117879961#Comment_117879961

The two Ferrari's right behind Lewis could be a problem for him if he doesn't get a clean start. I expect a first corner incident of some sort.

skipper_G

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880030#Comment_117880030

Why are they like this? It's the F1 coverage on a dedicated F1 channel and they're banging on about tennis. I don't care about tennis

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117879871#Comment_117879871

Lewis stuck in his DRS zone, on harder tyres. Under normal circumstances I'd day that means he's faster even though he failed to overtake. On the same tyre he'd have had a better chance of overtaking too. And with strategy, I'd expect him to finish ahead of both mclarens. If Hamilton got ahead of norris, I doubt he would have been able to fight back in the same way.

The mclarens are fast alright. They qualified best of the rest and miles ahead of Perez.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880097#Comment_117880097

Well they has to mention it because it’s a big story.

MAULBROOK

Whos on for a drinking game, one shot for every LH moan.

I will be in hospital by lap 10.😁

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880104#Comment_117880104

The softs aren't clear cut faster over the mediums in this case though, they are very close in terms of speed and durability it seems. He either needs to get them at the start, or hope that the undercut works today. I still see him on the podium, and they all still need to get through the first corner in one piece as well.

skipper_G

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880111#Comment_117880111

Mention it and move on I could live with, interviewing drivers ahead of a grand prix and asking them about someone winning at tennis is dumb

Ultimate Gowlbag

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880112#Comment_117880112

In this thread or from Lewis?? 😜

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880112#Comment_117880112

Shoot a double if he says his tyres are dead within 10 laps!

skipper_G

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880161#Comment_117880161

Lunatic, are you trying to kill everyone?! 😂

Itssoeasy

Isn’t usian bolt still the fastest man on earth given that he still holds the 100M world record.

Itssoeasy

The lads at Alpha tauri are trying to sort something out.

kksaints

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117880097#Comment_117880097

She's a F1 fan apparently, so maybe it has something to do with that.

Itssoeasy

Now george Russell is saying there’s an issue with his car. They haven’t even gotten to the formation lap.

lolie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117879897#Comment_117879897

This, Hamilton coming out with the he has no hope and max will have it easy comments already.

Both Mclaren drivers have nothing to lose so will they will go for it into the first corner.

They could easily take Max out or even each other and gift Hamilton a few places.

I'm hoping Hamilton has another bad start and loses another few places otherwise i wouldn't rule him out of winning the race by passing the Mclarens in the pits and Max with drs.

Frank Bullitt

Gasley with suspension issues it looks like.