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F1 2021 Round 13: Dutch Grand Prix

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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    What’s the point of this track?



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Indeed and he is on the hard compound so I would assume he wants to go long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Bottas could be crucial in this race.

    They reckon Lewis is doing a two stop - maybe keep Bottas on the one.

    If Max decides to try copy Lewis - they both will have to pass Bottas if the Mercs split the strategy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    I'd imagine Checo will be used to back Hamilton maybe a chance to get Verstappen into the pits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    No wonder F1 haven’t used this track since 1985.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Nice from Latifi there, risky considering who he was passing.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Doubt it for a while, he was what, 20 seconds clear coming out of the pits and he's pulled another load of time in clear air and fresh tyres.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    There have been a couple of nice passes already. Perez for example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    I think the whole Mercedes, 1 stop 2 stop, will they won't they stuff is absolute horse manure. They know exactly what they're planning to do, it's all mind games



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Exactly. It makes sense to split the strategy.



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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pretty much too late for it to be worthwhile already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Well Bottas is not going to interact with the leaders according to his race engineer.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some radio message for Bottas. 🤣



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Hamilton with the more of the obligatory remarks about his tires.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    So Max is copying Lewis.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mercedes need to slow down on the pitstops.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,165 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Slow stop cost Lewis



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Bottas is going to be important for Mercedes here. They'll want him to find a way that allows Hamilton to take the lead either before Bottas pits or just after.

    Hope they make the right choice.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I would love it if Bottas pitted now just to piss Mercedes off 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Bottas complaining of vibrations now,

    They surely won't be pitting him until Max and Lewis catch and pass.



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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    20 laps on the soft so 30 on the mediums and lower fuel should be pretty easy to do. Bit of interest coming up to the stops, Verstappen will need a full 2 second gap to stay out the extra lap. If there's a gap to pit into I think the sensible thing would be to get in around lap 45. Would leave enough life in the tyres and time to catch Hamilton if they somehow could go to the end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭lolie




  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trouble with leaving Bottas out now is he'll have no way to interfere around the time of the 2nd stops.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Bottas should grow a pair and look after himself today, the team have dumped him and he has to put himself first and try and finish the highest that he can instead of being a rear gunner for Hamilton.

    Anything else or deciding to not do the above, suggests that he's too submissive to ever make the grade and I don't like to see weakling drivers like that.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Hamilton closing now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    All very interesting, Sky of the opinion that Max is dropping off to avoid catching Bottas and bringing him into it like Mercedes want.

    The radio comments not telling the full story as usual.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I think Max is sandbagging and will continue do do so for as long as he can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,532 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Haha

    "so this is for the race win so you are defending"

    The race win for Lewis you mean.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Perez completed yet another pass. Great to see.



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Bottas has been told he is defending for the win.

    Think we all know what that really means.



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