Too late to do it now?
A typical soiree in 1990s West Cork
I think its fair to say given the gards conduct in this investigation, many leads were not followed up on. I'd imagine the real clues lie in the detail of those leads that weren't followed up on and the disposal of key evidence, like the bottle of wine, like the gate, the list goes on. This was one of if not the most high profile murder cases in modern Irish history and they saw fit to dispose of vital pieces of evidence, it really beggars belief. Evidence that given time may have been able to connect the actual murderer to the crime, who knows with the way technology is going, but no, they saw fit to destroy it, that's if you believe them.
So instead they spend their time trying to frame/convict a blatantly innocent man of murder who actually gave over his DNA & fingerprints.
The bottle is also lost now.
Would a photographic record exist or even a complete description of the label etc etc.?
maybe a drawing?
"Would a photographic record exist or even a complete description of the label etc etc.?"
To lose one's nerve, courage, or resolve to undertake something.
I wanted to ask Steve on a date, but I lost my bottle at the last minute.
😁.
That's a good vintage , a '79 Beaujolais nouveau I'd say
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I dont think there is a consensus.
Id say its about 40% innocent, 40% percent unproven/undecided, 20% guilty. Finger in the air figures.
Thats why the thread is so long!
The gate was removed to Dublin for forensic testing. No evidencial material was recovered from it. Nothing at all. Blood splatters, fingerprints, hair or skin fragments or clothing fibres. It was later disposed of because it was taking up too much storage space. If it were still in existence today, located and re-examined how likely would it be that new, important information would be discovered as a result even taking into account advances in forensic science? Not likely at all, I would think.
The gate has blood on it buddy - visible to the naked eye, no fancy forensics required!
Getting rid of it for "storage purposes" is idiotic and suspicion is, naturally, heightened because the Gards tore pages out of evidence books and "lost" other evidence besides.
Yes.
But with wellies.
First time I've seen him named.
Interesting, certainly worth some investigation by the Gardai - though that's about as likely as getting a free kick against Portugal in a World Cup qualifier.
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And possibly "D'ya know like?" added to the end of the sentence...
Who says it had blood on it? I have never seen or heard this reported. If indeed it had, it beggars belief that it would not be retained and then compared to samples taken from suspects in the investigation. I can't recall if Bailey was asked to give a blood sample at the time.
Shiraz, Barossa, 1984?
Chalk it down bai.
looks more like a '96 Baileys to me
Here you go.
The blood on the gate was Sophie's
What's Leo Bolgers alibi?
I'm not sure if he killed Sophie, but I'm 100% certain he shot JFK from the grassy knoll.
And his favourite wine is a nice chianti. Accompanied by fava beans and some unidentified meat...
And there's good evidence, sadly lost now, that he is D. B. Cooper.
I fail to see a motive for any local to murder her. It wasn't a sexual assault or robbery. It looks/sounds like a crime of passion to me...we don't know much of Sophie's life in France. Did she come over to get away from someone over there, is that why she asked some people to accompany her, was she scared? She has an ex who assaulted her in public on the metro I think. It doesn't sound like the investigation focused on France much which is strange given she was from there and also the French authorities didn't allow/make it easy for any leads to be followed up there from what I understand.
Just for comparison here's a case where a man just happened to drive by a woman out jogging. He thought she was attractive and followed her. He was rebuffed so he stabbed her to death and hid the body.
Rejection is all it takes for a motive with some people.
Marie Farrell saw him
Eh….ok. Relevance?
The relevance is motive. There's so many comments on here about there being no motive for IB. But, as you see with this case, it took very little for the guy to snap, murder a woman, then have no recollection...just because she rejected him. One could easily apply this same template onto Sophie's situation.
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