Funnily enough, it was Hennelly who got caught under the high ball in 2013 and dropped another ball for the penalty in 2016, and had too terrible kick-outs in 2 mins in 2015 which Dublin got two goals from.
The fortitude that any top GAA player, never mind the ones that reach the latter stages of the championship year after year, means that they couldn't more removed from being a 'choker', as you describe.
Doesn't suit your narrative though I suppose, which is nothing but a thinly veiled personal attack.
It has been said over and over and over and over and over that it's not about in the stadium it's about the congregation before and after. I was really surprised how big a crowd the fans made outside the stadium and around Dublin for the 24k hurling semi final
So with that "Logic" then Dublin team have choked against Mayo ya?
Time yourself and Strumms went for a little merry walk there boys. Hand in hand sucking the lemons. If anything proves what ye boys were like over the years then 10/10 for showing that in spades with the rubbish been posted on here since you were beaten, fairly and squarly. Its no wonder these threads are been avoided.
"Tyrone let Kerry go short on their kickout all day so they had to build from deep, and Tyrone sent them down the sidelines or bottled them up.Tyrone went long on theirs which Kerry gathered most of. The mistake Kerry made seeing that was they didnt go long on their kickout also."
I've seen this in a couple of articles and I completely disagree with it - if Kerry go long, the Tyrone defenders are already in place and Kerry still get bottled up. IMO, what they should have done is taken the short kickout and then played it up the field slowly to draw Tyrone on to them without Kerry getting sucked in to conceding turnovers; play it patiently like Dublin would have done. It's boring to watch but effective
Ya they kept it simple stupid. With one of the poorest Health Services I. Europe we managed to have one of the lowest death rates Europe. While rules may seem arbitrary, there is no such thing as clear and simple rules. We were dealing with a pandemic not a soccer or football match.
One of the biggest issues during the pandemic was the way a lot of owners or managers failed to protect there businesses by enforcing rules which might have allowed them to stay open longer.
The fact is if you have only 50% of the people at an event you cut the risk of infection by 60-70% at that event. At 70% will people be distanced, no but you are reducing the number of infected individuals that are attending and you reduce the viral load in the area.
I think putting it down to workrate is too simple. Basically saying Kerry didn't try hard enough. Surely the fact so many players went down with cramp, means they put in huge workrate? They got caught out for a few goals but I would put it down to poor organization in defence rather than workrate. Gavin white and Stephen O'Brien kept trying to take on Tyrone players, so there was nothing wrong with their heart and endeavor. It was just plainly not working.
As a Mayo fan I've never questioned our workrate in recent years, but we've still conceded bad goals at times.
Goals win games. Simple as it sounds. We lost AI finals to early goals, own goals etc. The goals kept Tyrone ahead and/or put a downer on Kerry.
I think the AI final will need 2 goals to win it, both teams will be tight pushing the shooting out the 40 which decreases the % success.
Kerry like back in 08 looked shell shocked. Tyrone gained in confidence and energy levels were with them from that. I can't see a Kerry team not having the same fitness levels of any of the other semi final teams.
On this occasion, Comerford and his defenders showed their naivety and inexperience and if they had held on to the ball and not conceded a 45 at the end of normal time, they would be in an All-Ireland final. O'Connor could probably be excused his first All-Ireland failure as inexperience but by 2016, he had plenty of experience and could be classed as having choked, ditto Clarke.
If Comerford messes up the same next year in a clutch moment, he could face the same accusation, or else Dublin may just consider that he is not good enough.
The reason Kerry lost the game is they were trying to create goals instead of taking there point chances. Kerry won every kickout from both keepers in the first half. Every Tyrone score came from a turnover in the first half, 4-5 of them were from turnovers where an opportunity to put the ball over the bar was not taken. I think the Tyrone goal in the first half came from a Kerry goal chance that was saved and turned over.
If Kerry took there points Tyrone had to kick out the ball and Kerry were going to win it. If we had taken our scores in the first half Tyrone would have had 3-4 less points scored and we have scored 3-4 more.
This would have forced Tyrone out of its defensive shell late in the first half or early in the second half and opened up the game.
Quite simply it was a total mismanagement of the game by the sideline that cost us that game
Joe mcquillan is the ref for the final.
Anyone know if the lads could get a sky blue strip they could wear.
Just in the capacity thing there seemed to be a bit over 24k at the mayo dublin game appeared nearer the 30k mark wonder is that why tickets appeared again on the Friday .
Cillian O'Connor is the all time championship top scorer with a number of years still left. He's also likely to have scored the most scores against Dublin in the championship bar maybe Brian Stafford. And also is likely to be one of the all time top scorers in Croke Park. Not bad considering he's playing in an away venue against a Dublin team playing at their home venue!
He's saved Mayo on numerous occasions.
A choker he certainly isn't. So knock this nonsense on the head like a good lad.
This is hilarious. The one year it should probably be David Gough as a Leinster ref, and they give it to an Ulster man with an Ulster team. The GAA really is a gas organisation.
Agree with you 100%.
Absolutely ridiculous when Gough was the obvious appointment.
Agreed. I read a stat before that Cillian O'Conner's average scoring actually increases when he plays against Dublin. Both overall and from open play.
Somehow despite being the top scorer of all time he is still under appreciated outside of Mayo. He has saved Mayo more than I can remember.
He opted out last year, did he ref a game this year?
I don’t think that he’s in anyway under appreciated outside Mayo. I think most counties would take him in a heartbeat.
I think that he’s just unpopular with a few vocal fans of a certain county. Probably because he has always fronted up.
He fluffs the big moments, like a few Mayo lads. Be interesting to see if these new lads win an AI without him or do they get a dose of the yips themselves.
Let us know how you got on in your obvious successful intercounty career. The Mayo obsession is strong in the idiots on this thread still it seems. Rent free in their heads. Time to go out and get some air lads and stop jizzing off to Mayo players.
Is this a big moment ?
More nonsense. I don't know exactly his conversion rate for penalties is, but at a guess its 90%, many of them in big AI games. He's hugely consistent from frees. He's scored many crucial points and goals from play including rescuing Mayo against Dublin.
And he scored 4-9 in an All-Ireland semi final.
Luckily he has nothing to prove to armchair experts!
Actually here's a nice summary of his career.
Crunching the numbers on Cillian O’Connor’s scoring records - Mayo GAA Blog
Penalty record is 8-1.
Him "opting out" didnt last long and he was back reffing as soon as the season restarted. He reffed the semi final last year between Tipp and Mayo. And he reffed the Ulster final this year between Monaghan and Tyrone.
They're the highest profile games I can remember him doing without checking. He definitely didn't take a break like he originally hinted.
That clip doesn’t show it but that kick was seven minutes into injury time. Or that Small picked the ball off the ground straight after
Jaysus. I watch the matches more than the refs and in fairness then that is a good thing when you don't even see the ref.
McQuillian will be interesting.
Yeah, I just remember cos there was a bit of coverage around it at the time. He cited the safe way the Cul camps had been run or some nonsense as his excuse for him continuing to ref games instead of opting out as you said.
A few extra tickets available
Ya more raffles for house, clubs and corpos..... :D
Its getting depressing now with nothing showing up.
It sickened me yesterday to see Kerry GAA advertising a draw for match tickets if you bought a ticket to win a house or something. They're not the only ones but being a Kerry man I was disappointed to see it.
For the year thats in it, every club and county should be giving their tickets back to HQ to distribute to competing counties only.
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