His Friend has R grade cows, they have a load, 3.9/ kg. Price was quoted last Friday
What has your friend going? And what price was he quoted?
Friend has full load going, agent looked at cattle Friday and gave quote, lorry going tomorrow evening. I'm joining my few in with his full load.
3.90 for R grade cows, if it's true highly unlikely that we will see any drop in the base price again the end of the week. Actually it's hard to see how a base price of 4.1/ kg holds water with that. Often saw cows making as much as P grade bullocks. At that price they be tipping at O- bullocks that are underage and higher than overage ones
Heard nothing about last week tbh, as only a few ready this week.
I'm already QA, so can't say what non QA may be offered tbh.
What were you been quoted for these last week?
QA?
3.90 quoted for r grade cows. Duleek
Friend had an agent looking at cattle this evening. Agent said flush of castle that the factory got back up last two weeks ago are gone. Not only that but cattle are not exactly coming into him like 2+ weeks ago. If agents have to start searching for cattle factory's will struggle to pull prices.
While on one hand cattle seem to be killing well I wonder is the factory price hiding that carcases are a tad lighter than last year. Friend had a couple of extra cattle this year but he thinks hid DW will be back 10+kg/ head.
Mine is back but as I have posted I bought a lighter stores last year so I cannot judge whether stores are lighter or not.
There's plenty of forward stores and finished cattle going North atm which is putting a floor under the trade for short keep stock of all colour's. However I'm told that the "Nomad" issue has reappeared of late with Southern born and Nothern slaughtered stock. If they start discounting these cattle in Northern factories then I can't see the live exports staying at the levels there at.
A few lad's have told me there buying no more Southern stock due to difficulties in getting them slaughtered in recent weeks. For years the main exports to the North were breeding stock as the Nomad issue left other cattle unviable. It's only in the last few years that beef cattle were exported in any great number's at least from the marts I frequent. If they tighten the net on IE imports then we're totally reliant on the cartel again.
Well that’s the reality. What do you expect farmers to do. Everyone will try and hold on as long as they can but as I’ve said before, when a wet week comes and cattle huddled under a ditch ploughing up the place then unless your Bass and not affected by the weather then your choices are limited.
one wet week here in the midlands, it quickly becomes a mud bath here for me. Especially bad as I’ve all finishing cattle on reseeded ground which takes even less punishment.
the weather is as big an enemy as Larry and his boys are for a lot of farmers
It's the same old ding song every year. Cattle were scarce this week because lads were busy with the fine weather, it's easy hold cattle when weather is fine.
Once a wet week comes factories will drop the price and lads will run with them. Couple of heros will "hold tough" and take Less a few weeks later.
Fool me once and all that.
Did not buy it this week generally don't buy it, so cannot read it.
I know you don't have much regard for the Journal. But for anyone interested in the current and prospective states of play re beef - especially the Irish/UK balance - there is a superb article in Page 26 of this week's issue by Phelim O Neill.
For the last two weeks lads were under pressure to move cattle going over age....myself included as factories backed them up. I have noting going over age before 17th September and only 6 March born cattle in total left. Anything left is over 30 months or can wait until October. As I have said forwards stores are stupid money but all the heavy over 500kgs ones have dried up. I remember commenting about a months ago about the amount of 27-30 months store not fit to kill going through marts at the time. I think another 1-2 commented on it as well. In the last week factory fit cattle have disappeared from the marts and the forward 500kg+ store is stupid money as well. The flush of 2020 store is not starting to come out yet. Lads have grass and are not in a hurry to move he. If I had store's to sell I be carrying them to the mart now however I don't....but I intend to sit on my finished cattle, I cannot see the price pull continuing and they are putting on cheap weight at present. Most Mid march cattle are now gone and we have over 50K less to kill before year end or 3K/week. 2022 cattle will come on stream from November so most of the remaining reduction in troughput will be over the next 8-12 weeks.
So much for the cartel!
All finished . The ones I saw loafing in recent weeks were cows and heifers . No weanlings .
What cattle are they talking up north weanlings or finished cattle
You are correct . The numbers aren’t there for the factories to pull prices . I have never seen the numbers of NI artics loading from West of Ireland marts as I have recently. That alone has to be a big help to the trade .
Was to kill a few bks next Tuesday they rang last Thursday night said bring them down in the morning 4.15. Still 4.15 next week and looking for them
It was 4.10 here last week for ordinary mortals, it is still 4.10 next week. There is no stream if cattle into the factory. One local factory is on 3 days a week normally it's flat out this time of year. They managed to back some cattle up the week before last with that tactic. But cattle seemed to have dried up. There was only 73 lots of bullocks in Gortnalea yesterday evening for the last while it's been 130 ish lots. Very few finished cattle, they seem to have disappeared.Very little above 650 and no 750kg+ cattle. Lighter stock that were 500 kgs and over were.on fire. There was no big lots with 10-15 finished cattle that were there over the last 3-4 weeks.
I got payed the he bonus on my animal who was 30 months the next day.
I heard nothing of it not being payed till the a poster replied to me.
When I asked the poster, were they gonna pull next week, I meant the he bonus.
There is 5 cent he bonus in Foyle donegal as well.
Never have a. Issue and I have mostly Friesian and be going mostly betweens two plants near me. I might have 1 or 2 in a bunch at most or an AA and a HE and I have always got paid. Then again I am getting a bad base all the time. Maybe when plants are paying a higher base they pull the HE whatever about the AA bonus
I kill regular with dawn liffey and abp matching cattle to plant.
I'm finding Dawn will only pay consistantly in rathdowney. Liffey in ballyduf.
This time last year I tried 2 abp plants in South and both said paying it nó more (and it wasn't personal because they gave me top price for load of heavy bulls on same phone call) but I know they were paying again late spring when I was getting bonus elsewhere at the time.
Kepak it seems to be who you are and if they scarce.
That's my experience but I have been duped before.
Some fellas are getting s horn here for a a price drop. I wonder is that because lads have a lot of there cattle st.bcattle in marts are on fire. 500-550 fr 1.9-2/ kg, HE/AA's 2.2-2.5/ kg AA are Continental's weighing over 500 kgs.
Why would you take HE cattle there so. I know AIBP pay it all the time and I think Dawn do as well as some independents. If they do not pay it they do not pay it.
Correct and right 👍🏻. They must be going to pull the bonus from next week on are they?
10 cent he bonus. You are one of the chosen ones. Kepak have told me they no longer giving he bonus.
O = he heifer came into €4.32 per kg at a 4.20 base, all in, kepak, midweek gone by.
