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Buying and importing a mini-digger from UK to Ireland

Staleturnips

Howdy folks,

I'm in the market for a mini-digger and as there is a much bigger marketplace in the UK and wondering if buying there and then importing back over to Ireland is the best option.

Just wondering if anyone has done this in post Brexit/CV19 times? Is it a lot of hassle and ultimately was it worth it?

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148multi

Unless it partly built in the UK, 23% vat plus 10% customs, and pay UK vat, then try to claim it back. I think.

Patsy167

100% not worth it since the latest Brexit rules came in

Staleturnips

From what I can gather the machine being exported from the UK would not incur UK VAT, I'm told no importing Plant doesn't incur a tariff but Irish VAT would have to be paid as the machine is being imported into Ireland.

I think its a case of finding a machine in the UK then to the purchase price add in the Irish import VAT and transportation cost, and comparing that to what can be purchased in Ireland.

The Nutty M

Unless it has a certificate of origin from the UK then it is subject to import duty unfortunately.

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117815612#Comment_117815612

Wouldn't it still get duty even if origin was UK as UK is outside EU now. They are effectively China.

boatbuilder

I have my eye on a little second-hand towable Powerfab digger over in the UK. They're made in Wales I think.

Whats the situation about bringing it in?

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117815617#Comment_117815617

No, the rules re, no duty on UK origin goods are still in place.

[Deleted User]

Preferential tariff treatment

In the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement, tariff duties have been eliminated for trade between the European Union (EU) and the United Kingdom (UK) where the relevant rules on origin are met.

It is important to note that a claim for preferential tariff treatment:

for imports into Ireland can be made only where the goods are of UK origin.
for imports into the UK can be made only where the goods are of EU origin.

To prove the origin of a product the exporter should include a ‘statement on origin’ on:

an invoice
or
any other document that describes the product in enough detail to identify that product.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/customs/businesses/origin/eu-uk-trade-agreement/preferential-tariff-treatment.aspx

afatbollix

What would stop someone driving from Scotland to Belfast on the ferry and driving down?

It's not like it would have customs chasing you for VAT at the border?

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120444264#Comment_120444264

If one is importing a machine from the UK with an EU origin, is there custom duties.

alps

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120444624#Comment_120444624

On other products yes, so expect the same might be the case with machinery. It could be transported through the UK though.

have2flushtwice

There must be some way around it. I see a lad bringing in dumpers etc and selling them. Nothing that needs a tax book.

He has other stuff that would be irl registered

Anto_Meath

If you are doing accounts and wish to keep everything correct the expense and hassle of bring any machine for the UK at the minute isn't worth it. the 10% customs takes all the good out of it. If its mini digger you are looking to import why don't you look to main land Europe. I see a lad who imports tractors near me is bringing in stuff from France. Someone told me the spec on the French machines isn't as good as the UK but that even without the 10% customs tax the French machines are still far cheaper.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120450435#Comment_120450435

There's lads bringing in machinery surely, the type of men dodging revenue anyway, not a great business plan

onrail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120444339#Comment_120444339

I wondered this. Fair enough, if you wanted to write off depreciation all would have to be above board, but otherwise, customs isn't going to know anything about a machine bought in Armagh by a private individual and brought south?

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120473030#Comment_120473030

I'd guess there's more customs officers now, but their checking is more hit and run style.

CtrlAltDelete

Anyone brought a machine on a road trip from the UK to southern Eire via a night out in Belfast of late?

pg141

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120450689#Comment_120450689

With the Direct boats into Wexford, Beligum, Nerthlands, Germany, France are all easier to buy from, than the UK

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301283#Comment_122301283

A lot of people at this, no control in NI and ROI can't stop it either, need a border to police it correctly

148multi

A lot will depend on if you are vat registered, where the machine was made and other costs regarding certs and paper work, Am told more 13 - 20 tonne types available in the UK right now, but fewer mini diggers.

Esel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122301283#Comment_122301283

Southern Éire - like Cork or Kerry?