A believable statement would be, that's strange, there's a light on in Alfie's, he didn't say anything about a party... maybe I'll check it out later.
Jules:Ah no Ian it's late, you've had a few already and there's lots to do with Christmas coming and you have to finish that article?
Ian: That ******** article.
Jules: And you still have to cut the tree and kill those turkeys, plus the bonfire.
Ian: Those bloody turkeys!
Are you ok?
She thinks she remembers... we're talking about a murder here and people 'think they remember'? Or remember stuff years later?
There is zero credible evidence of any connection between Bailey and Sophie, other than a possible very brief introduction while doing gardening work a year earlier (?) which I'm not totally convinced about but could have occurred.
He may have seen a light on in a different house, and may have been within 100 metres and then what?
He thought and saw a light on in Alfie's... a premonition of something bad happening? To whom? How? Why? How do you connect a light on in Alfie's to something bad happening to Sophie, except in some sort of retconning? Utter nonsense.
Had Ian Bailey been brainwashed, and seeing a light in Alfie's at a certain time and a certain combination of planetary alignments was the signal for him to kill someone?
This is so far removed from a motive or real evidence it's laughable.
Was there a light on in Alfie's? What was going on in Alfie's? We need to know. It's such utter nonsense you could just as plausibly argue that Ian seeing a light on in Alfie's at that hour was unusual full stop, and that's why he had a premonition of something bad. Absolutely zero part played in it by Ian Bailey.
A premonition? A light?
Pull the other one.
This thread would make a great IQ filter. Do you actually think I am NF? Who, I think, is British and lives in Belgium? My posts on the wage subsidy scheme last year all make total sense now. 🙄
I think this is ignoring the fact that in Jules' statement to Gardai on Feb 10th 1997, she said Ian said to her that he could see a light on Alfie's on the way home on the night of the murder and that he might go over there. That would bring him within 100m of Sophie's house. He would actually have to pass within a few metres of her back door. She also said he had some kind of premonition that something bad was going to happen. Jules denies saying these things but her revised statement was signed by her and it also led to IB changing his account of the night when confronted with it.
Several statements given after the murder claim IB siad he knew Sophie. The woman who played the part of Sophie for the Crimecall reconstruction said she thinks she remembers him saying to her that he met Sophie on the same walk they were filming on. He just walked up and approached them during filming. A journalist for the Guardian in the UK also made a statement that IB told him he knew Sophie.
Frank Buttimer is a great solicitor. If there was any solicitor or man you wanted in your corner, it would be him. He has my highest respect the way he has stood up to the French farce & the gards. Great man. Not only is he standing up for Bailey but hes standing up for the irish judicial system over the french. Unfortunately there isn't many solicitors like him around.
On top of this, he is having to deal with a clown of a Taoiseach licking the arse of this little French weasel promising him things that he should never do. This case shines a light on our spineless policitians, the arrogance of the french and the willingness of people to put aside due process and convict an innocent man based on flimsy evidence at best.
I've been inclined to regard the case against IB as "not proven" but I now think there is a fatal weakness in the prosecution case.
I think everyone here would accept that IB would have no reason to go to Sophie's cottage that night if they had no relationship whatever i.e. if he was a stranger to her.
I know nothing about IB except what is in the media but everything I learned (especially from the excellent West Cork podcast) indicates that he is a braggart and an attention-seeker. It is inconceivable that IB would have said nothing to anyone about Sophie before her murder if he had a relationship of any sort with her - even the most innocent. Most tellingly, Bannadsidhe on this thread gave a very interesting and detailed account of her conversation with IB at a party at Alfie Lyons place a few months before the murder. IB rambled on at length about French film but did not mention that the woman next door was the wife of one of the most powerful men in the French film industry. Why? Because he didn't know her background.
Another example is this lenghty John Montague article in the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2000/mar/12/life1.lifemagazine10
IB worked for him as a gardener over many years and, as the article shows, they had many interactions, especially about poetry, and IB confided in him. Montague himself is a world-class name dropper (the first thing he tells us is the Empress of Japan had more time for him than Seamus Heaney!). And yet IB never mentioned Sophie to Montague
The Gardai went to great lengths to prove such a relationship without success. All they had was the recollection of a local handyman that he had introduced IB to Sophie some years before the murder but IB denies this and, even if the introduction had happened, there is no suggestion that this was anything more than an brief exchange of pleasantries.
From all this, I believe it is practically certain that IB had no relationship whatever to Sophie. I cannot believe that he just decided to trek for miles after midnight to her cottage to ... what? ... to receive her passionate embraces because.... well, she's French and she had a pair of wine glasses and, shure, we all know how those French lassies are!
No - if IB did not know Sophie personally, then he had no motive to visit her and we are being asked to believe he is a unique specimen - the one-off serial killer. (Yes, to his eternal shame he beat up Jules but that has nothing to do with murdering a total stranger)
An Irish solicitor gets to tell the President of France to drop dead. Frank Buttimer doesn't mince his words.
Perhaps it was just to test out that all was well with the repair. But strange to be away that week before Christmas - a busy time for socialising and preparations for the big day and also to face the hassle of travel at a busy time of year and maybe weather issues. I know her son was with his father at that time but she had other family.
*A citizen of Ireland
*My bad.....
Josephine hellen got the heating fixed before she arrived. This was not the reason she visited. The reason remains a mystery.
What are the chances of finding new forensic evidence now? Perhaps use of new techniques or methods such as LIDAR or other technical developments.
ha ha but did you not google?
which held that section 44 of the European Arrest Warrant Act 2003 prohibited surrender because the alleged offence was committed outside French territory and Irish law did not allow prosecution for the same offence when committed outside its territory by a non-Irish citizen. Mr Bailey is a British citizen.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/high-court-rejects-request-for-ian-bailey-to-be-extradited-to-france-1.4378483
Oh yes, seen that. Thanks!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderAtTheCottage/comments/pcz957/nick_fosters_acknowledgements/ first post
Thanks. You're a mine of information.
LOL but that's not actually moonies twitter 🤣 it's the trolls who post on Nicks tweets that are horrendous
Which thread? I'm in the reddit discussions
he wants to be on The Late Late Show
Speculation on reddit that IB and Jules drove up to Toormore after Ian saying there looked to be a party in Alfie’s that night.
I suspect you are correct.
Moonunit's twitter feed is almost as aggressive as their posting here https://twitter.com/nfoster66?lang=en
you can easily find that out.
I wonder is Bailey an Irish citizen?
If the Irish authorities could not find the evidence needed to send Bailey to trial for murder, they were hardly going to give him up to France to do the same.
Realistically, how did France try and convict Bailey of murder? When Ireland, holding all the facts and hard crime scene evidence could not?
The Irish prosecution service, deemed there wasn't anything worthy to pin on Bailey that would warrant him to be tried for the crime of murder.
But yet, the French President deemed it appropriate to offer Bailey a fresh trial should he agree to participate in one....
That's akin to sticking two fingers up at the Irish prosecution service (we can deliver the conviction, you couldn't)
And furthermore, cause harassment of an Irish citizen that is entitled to the assumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law.
Remember... Didn't the French refuse the Irish investigators any access to the French witnesses?? Not allowed to interview people of interest??
Macron has some neck...
what latest revelations?
is there a thread about the latest revelations on Bailey?
It is is west cork part 14. The bags were open when the french expert got them.
The French scientist was shown nine exhibit bags Bantry Garda station. She took samples to France and ran tests
On a swab of whitish trace near laces on sophies left boot they found the DNA profile of unknown male
West Cork producers took it to an independent experts who said it might have been on the boot before the attack or contamination after the fact
IB was convicted in France for a crime committed here, I guess that's the reason France has had so much trouble trying to extradite him. The original extradition proceedings were for questioning but Ireland doesn't extradite people just for questioning. If he was a fugitive from French authorities for a crime committed in France he would probably have been extradited by now.
No, that is not what I think or what I said. Again the word FOUND is the key here. P.S. It's *reasonable.
Oh ok you think possibly blood got onto the laces from the morgue?
You would think they would have procedures for avoiding contamination but it could happen though I think its reasinable to consider that it probably came from the scene.
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