Hundreds of thousands of US people continuing to tear themselves apart on twitter in the Trump v Biden debate.
**** hell lads, we would want to stop looking at that place as some bastion of sanity to aspire to.
2 absolutely shambolic Presidents in a row.
No.
The army ranger thing was a mad decision by politicians not considering the long term effects on the reputation of Ireland as non NATO nation.
It was a step towards military involvement. Albeit an extraction it was an active military presence by our troops in a war zone. All on the eve of the end of that war having no part in it for 20 years.
Had our troops been killed it would have bound Martin and Coveney to George Bush the war criminal in history. A touch of irresponsible madness to the population and the future of our children in the decision albeit a very brave one.
You have no idea what went on.
Wise up.
It does appear that the only way to even get the remaining military out safely would be an offensive action. They cant really do that and maintain this tenuos relationship with the taliban though. Rock and a hard place. I think they should just get themselves out now and abandon whomever is left.
Us Irish really love to put ourselves down.
All she wanted was to make the government look bad.
She doesn't care about the rangers or the people still there.
Horrible attitude.
**** RTE
Did the Irish Rangers rescue anyone?
We will never know the details but those boys know what they are at and there was a reason why they were there. Maybe randevous with Irish targets in Kabul etc.
Really think the Irish Rangers thing was a PR gimmick gone wrong.
We were completely dependent on foreign nations anyway I can’t see how amongst these chaos 11 Irish lads would have made an ounce of difference.
Not even on the deck 24hrs (?) and they themselves are evacuated out!?
Lad just interviewed on the phone from Kabul. Here in Ireland as a Refugee. Flew back home to Afghanistan to help his mother a few weeks ago and got trapped there.
Got a phone call to say a team Rangers had flown from Ireland and were at the Airport to rescue him if he gave them his location. He said he wouldn't go unless they also brought his mother and other extended family members. They asked him for passport details etc and he wouldn't either send them or bring them to the airport because it was too dangerous to go to the airport. Rangers eventually had to leave without him as bombs went off around the airport.
Lad then goes on Prime Time and blasts the Irish Government for not doing enough to help him.
He can **** stay in Afghanistan.
Lucky it wasn’t 12 Irish soilders killed today .
Cretin on primetime asking Covney if we should have one of those big planes and if he'll be petitioning for one in the next budget despite him telling her getting people on a plane wasn't the issue it was getting them to a plane in the first instance that was the problem.
Similar to what they were thinking when they left all the weapons to the useless Afghan “army” - should have done what the brits did and grind everything into dust.
Just saw that, mind boggling once again. What the hell are they thinking?
you're not alone, I feel the same. Still all this endless corona talk which still seems more or equally important as this horrific situation for the people left in Afghanistan makes me sick to my stomach and angry I don't find words. It's the first time I really feel ashamed being a european.
i think ireland have taken in a few afghan refugees in the last fews days (did i read 10 or 160?) but that will be increased.
i think the nato nations need to pay for this.
jesus **** Christ
Sounds like Northern Ireland 🙄
No and I wouldn't go that far either. And if you got that from my post that is a wrong assumption.
Instead I would be putting the microscope on US foreign policy and why we (EU member States) are aligning ourselves to clear misjudgements.
The EU gets the fallout.
20 million??????
that cant be correct. thats 52% of the population.
I was surprised we sent what i was told our most elite troops (Rangers) considering we had no involvement for the last 20 years that i know of I was not aware these troops existed. A few hours after i was told this i heard they were on the plane out...
Clearly the Taliban are not going to let the people who worked for the US and others leave. Its going to be awful as the Afgans have had a kindof western life and now its going to be different...
Exactly where does it end?
When the 38 million are out???
It's really starting to look like Pakistan have been given the green light to use Afghanistan territory and their Taliban proxies within it to wage a massive war against ISIS-K before that branch of ISIL gain more of a further stranglehold on South East Asia.
Will be surprised if Biden is punctual this evening, he’s been late by up to 5 hours for scheduled pressers and that’s when he bothers showing up.
How many more US/UK/NATO personnel need to be killed for nothing?
I’m not a fan of Biden but he is right in saying it doesn’t matter how long more they spent there. This was always going to be messy. not exactly much you can do when a lad walks into a crowd with a bomb attached to him.
RtE news said its just after 10pm and will be on RTE news now station.
This is a grim time. Feel very depressed this evening thinking about this and how helpless we are to help these people. Literally hell on earth.
Before someone starts, don't attack me for having empathy with fellow human beings.
The US decision to pull out has been nothing short of a disaster.
They ordered out the Dutch and a few other countries so they are preparing to split ASAP I'd say.
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