Ouch!!!
Cue the excuses
Plus it would be a lot worse only a lot of people jumped the border into hospitals in Cavan etc which is keeping the numbers down
Oh and if you hear the mantra about SF coming in with their long cape to save the day of the health system, show them this and ask them, why are waiting lists in the North so bad and what are they going to do about them, since they are in power??
There's a kicking (which used to alternate between FF and FG as the electorate fooled themselves into thinking they might get something different) and then there is a consistent downward trend in the share of the vote of over 40%.
That can not be explained by the the electorate 'liking to give a kicking'.
Of course, it can. But you want to build some other false narrative. Anway, this is the SF thread.
SF are not the party to 'save' Ireland as some like to paint them. Just look at their record anywhere they have had power. From NI to DCC. Very very very poor. They are good at stoking up outrage and anger alright online, 'll give them that. But actually, doing anything in power? I have seen nothing to convince me otherwise.
They are also good at commemorating and eulogising the lives of serial killers while ignoring the legacy of their victims. That as well.
Are you seriously asking Shinners or supporters of free stuff before for the idle (PBP) this question. Of course it's Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China, and South Africa. All bastions of free speech and demoracy
So much for SF putting the people before business. At this stage will anyone be left to work in the companies when SF are finished putting the people first in the North.
Disaster of a party, it's is a tragedy that people are dying because of their incompetence.
Dying because of incompetence is a forward step for SF in fairness. Progress of a sort.
I was going to mention that but decided not to :-)
I didn't offer any narrative.
I want to know what somebody who champions the power swap for putting us on that list thinks of the slow decline of that power swap. Again, not a kicking but a slow an inexorable decline from 86% to just over 40%.
*P.S. I never portrayed Ireland as somewhere needing saving, I portrayed it as somewhere needing leaders who will make a great place for everybody.
And with FG in governments for the last decade approx that have led to record breaking crises in housing and health it is clearly not a great place for ALL.
So if you could have a go at the actual question that would be good.
Ireland will never be a great place for everyone. No country will
No matter what any party does it won't suit someone else. That's the joys of it. Hence why bashing TD's online is a disgrace. They are doing a job.
If SF walk in tomorrow and take power I can tell you that in 5 years time after their term not everyone in Ireland will be happy. Anyone who thinks SF will do that is away with the fairies.
Those playing the macabre competition might be mindful that they have very short memories.
I already answered it, you just don't like the answer I am giving. You can repeat yourself again and again, like a broken record but my answer will be the same. I don't know what you want from me, apart from maybe wasting time.
Care to actually talk about the topic of the thread? SF?
What do you make of their run of the health system in the North?
More excuses Francie. It's a disgrace what has gone on up the North since the Covid outbreak. People of all ages getting turned away at Enniskillen hospital and having to cross over to Cavan to get any sort of help and the same all along the border. Yet we have comments on here about how bad the HSE is.
I'm still waiting for that poster to name some countries that are better than Ireland...
Tumbleweed
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Also, the poster who said that Ireland was ObViOuSlY a failed state. Well Duh!
Nothing from them either to quantify such an outrageous statement.
So Ireland isn't a great place to live for some currently. I agree.
I would think that after 5 years those not happy will be those who can afford a little bit of unhappiness.
Up to now, it is those who cannot afford to be hit that get hit. If that changes a bit, then SF or whoever else breaks the toxic power swap will have done a creditable job.
I think the north's health service was creaking before COvid and is experiencing the same issues as ours. I wish them the best turning it around from the mess Covid is in at the minute, as we did when we got it horribly wrong.
The sooner we have a UI the better. Westminster don't give a **** and the DUP are only interested in their community.
I have no idea what are you are saying, Francie.
If you think Rep of Ireland isn't, imagine livingin the North now
So what is SF's plan to fix the Health Service in the North. They are in power after all, or does their extent of responsibility simply amount to a few tut's and singing 'Up da ra' in the pub?
Yes, and I would imagine they did the same when we were leading the world and went through our various crisis's with the pandemic.
Making bad deals for the tax payer are in nobodies interest, except cuckoo funds and other private concerns that FF/FG put first causing the many crises.
I suggest you read up on SF's policy. Point was yis were chomping at the bit about there not being one, now there is yis have more interest in a 100 odd years ago 😉
Maybe read it and see how many buzzwords are in it?
The idea that a UI will somehow magically fix the health service, is up there with the brain-dead fantasy that the UK leaving the EU would fix the NHS.
An equal amount of delusion, ignorance, and stupidity in both thought processes.
I suggest you review their website and what their relevant minister says, as I don't use the service I wouldn't know a lot about it.
What makes me laugh here is that in another thread or subject the same people here will be singing the praises of the northern health service and asking why anyone would vote to leave it. Again the self awareness of their chameleon like arguments is very lacking.
Ah ok, so your answer is 'Just google it'
SF claims to be an all-Ireland party, yet you refuse to stand over their record in the north. A mere shoulder shrug is all we get.
Yet, we expect them to rock up to the Dail and save the day...
Hilarious!!!
More makey up stuff Francie. The deflection from the disaster that SF are making of covid is interesting.
Okay.....
Seems you are having a private internal argument.
The north needs a government that is made up of people who live there. A UI will be the best thing to ever happen to the occupied counties.
Yes mark, I am not a spoofer. I don't know what their proposals are, but I am sure they have them. So go find them if you are interested.
If SF have done something to cause what has happened they are as responsible as are those here.
Can you tell what they have done (if it's specifically SF at fault) to cause this, and we can test it against the facts?
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