SF are the only ones along with the IRA who will take part in a Truth Recovery process, the IRA having taken part in the ICLVR process to recover the Disappeared, their participation in the ICLVR has praised.
I have no reason to believe that they will do what they say in a Truth recovery process.
There are only two of the combatants standing in the way of that process getting under way, the British and Unionism/Loyalism. The Irish government is currently mute on the legacy issues they committed to dealing with by establishing a legacy framework along wth the British government under the GFA and it ancillary agreements.
Go figure.
You made a claim and I gave a recent example of same. Throwing hearsay to try ignore that won't make your comment any more credible. It's FF/FG use the dead for political gain. As seen by the use of the Quinns in the last weeks of the election.
The family got an apology which they never would have got without the other parties. That alone was a huge relief to the family after teh SF TD lied about their dead son. Are you saying that’s irrelevant?
The family reject the apology Dudley. Breege Quinn wants Murphy to say categorically that he wasn't a criminal.
The IMC said, 'that the killing had no little to do with local criminality'. They have never retracted that finding.
Murphy should never have added to the families pain, but the wider facts are that their pain has been exploited by political parties for cheap political point scoring and then they are dropped like hot potatoes. Obscene.
would a grieving other do you or are you insisting on a official statement ?
Breege Quinn repeated her call for him to resign as Minister for Finance at Stormont.[15] She said he "should finish off and get justice" for the Quinn family.[15] She said he should "go and tell the PSNI and the Gardaí exactly who he was speaking to" in the IRA after the murder.[15] She said she would not meet Conor Murphy until he "comes out publicly saying that he is going to the PSNI to give the names of the IRA that he spoke to in Cullyhanna".
Murder of Paul Quinn - Wikipedia
i wonder why they didnt help recover all the Disappeared but only some ? or hand over those who disappeared them .
I have posted the link to the ICLVR statement on the process several times. Find it and read it. It was part of the reason I decided to give SF a vote as it was clear they and the IRA had committed to the GFA.
I didnt have my fingers crossed behind my back when I voted for that agreement.
If SF entered the democratic fold, and the IRA disarmed then I accept them as democrats like any other.
dont sf allow the bodys of all those they killed to come home then? or hand over the criminals in their midst ?
There are a few bodies that have simply been unable to find. If you knew the area around me 'The Bragan' you might understand.
People have been lost on the Bragan for hours. It has one of the densest networks of roads in Europe. I have to know where I am going or risk getting lost. I fully understand the difficulty of pinpointing areas you only seen in the dark of night 40 years ago.
What 'criminals' are in SF's midst? The IRA have been clear and unequivocal since the GFA, they will not be handing over anybody until there is an open and transparent Truth recovery process involving all the combatants and players.
I fully agree with that stance and understand why it was taken. There was nothing nice about the conflict and there will be nothing nice about the legacy process either.
FF/FG used the family of a dead man to try win points in an election run up. Following on from a claim SF used the dead.
One SF lad said he was a criminal, as did Bertie Ahern. Both retracted. Raising the murder to use the family the final weeks of an election to try damage SF was disgusting.
Except the claims of it being same party as 1905 havnt been debunked?
Why you feel need to repeat lie and hope noone point it out,is beyond me🤣
What person using parlimentry privilage did i.use??
Tell us again,how a retaininf majprity in a party,operating out of same premises with 100 years and under same name....is somehow different??
Deosnt make sense to me anyway....repeated intellectual dishonesty in ignoring said points,isnt going to make em go away....your position is simply incompatible with facts,logic and commonsense from what i see anyway
Looks to me,the minister of justice and garda commissioner should resign over inability to progress this investigation
They are good enough to make it an election issue,its only reasonable they carry can politically for failure to make progress
It was literally formed in 1905 its HQ is in same premises with 100 years or more at this stage🤣🤣
thats your explanation ? they forgot where they murdered and disposed of the bodies ? ya thats some one who should be in power 😂
first its what criminals then its they wont be handed over until every one is on board 😂. in the same paragraph
can you not see what you typed and the stink off it ?
Still a question you haven't answered. What criminals remain unpunished in SF?
Are you just randomly going to convict all?
same sad childish rubbish already well covered in detail and debunked by every one but the few hard core party "loyalists"
i wont be a part of a discussion designed by your party propagandists to try to alter history in an effort to steal legitimacy from historic events , its just part of the unsurprising disgusting sf party policy
posted 13/8/2021 at 12.10 am
you posted time link
Seán Haughey TD’s claim that founding PIRA chief Sean Mac Stiofáin was a Garda agent has ‘stunning implications’ says UUP’s Doug Beattie | Belfast News Letter.
which you claim to be proof but really it isnt , its just a weak attempt of the son of a creep to sell his book , but yu harped on for days that it was proof of a fact that you wanted to help distance sf form the murder of innocents .
theres a MacDonalds in bray in what used to be a town council building , do you think that means that your property tax will be on the eurosaver menu 😁
how about the sf member who met the murders of paul quinn and continues to withhold their identities ?
Can you link to anything the PSNI have said about him 'with holding names'?
The PSNI and the IMC know what Murphy does, and what I and locals know as well - who did it.
If Murphy had evidence he had been arrested and charged with with holding it. Knowing who did it and having evidence capable of convicting are two different things.
While you are at it, where did you hear he met the murderers?
He met the local IRA to find out if they were involved afaik. Same as the IMC did. Both say the IRA were not involved but a former member was.
already asked and already answered francie , around and around we go again eh and never any closer to sf helping a mother get justice for her murdered son
Where did you post it. I certainly never seen anything official backing you up.
Noone.altering history here,only debunking going on,is your talking point destroyed with facts and logic....if you cant.abide your point of view being questioned or anyone dare and point out its flaw.....why post it?
Little point in crying fowl for people daring to disagree with you with facts and logic
I have yet to see anything approaching a rebuttal and all evidemce points to macstoifin being a informer....the fact you have to resort to abusing poliitans online to defend your position speaks volume (i also refered to village magazine,but being able to scream abuse about em,yous choose to simply ignore it)
Iirc yous eventually agreed to support requests for garda special branch files relating to macstofin to being examined as regards the disappeared......little point in dismissing it now
Your attempts to liken discussion on the disappeared to a macdonalds are insensate,and unworthy of further examination
People don't care anymore, the majoirty have moved on from the past
30% is not a majority.
Based on the above how do you see SF in power at the next planned election in 2025? Also look up the definition of majority as SF don't have one over the current government.
Its not but its more than FF/FG have and yas are scared shitless, great to see
24 +15 +4 = 43 which is less than 30%
FG and FF have more combined.
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