He was talking to Noonan, Varadkar and Lowry, couldn't get a word in, thick as thieves 🙂
back to lies are we ? like the whole sf being the same party from 1905 to today 😂
because they have the same aims right ? that would make the real ira and continuity and new ira and all them other scumbags all part of your same rotten tree right ?
Which one of them call themselves Sinn Fein?
Yes, on the IRA point, maybe you missed the fact that McGuinness and Adams were unable to take all of the IRA with them on the road to a settlement and the GFA.
Republican Sinn Féin - Wikipedia this one for one
Dissident republican - Wikipedia have a read , they are all on your team
a party like sf is expert at hiding behind cover names and false fronts though arent they ?, we we may never know who really tells you what agenda to push online ?
you have been trying to claim a history you dont deserve but dont want the legacy you do ?
That party is called, by ITSELF - Republican Sinn Fein.
I asked which of them called themselves Sinn Fein.
Try again mike.
P.S. Republican SF is diametrically opposed to SF like yourself. Just saying.
ha ha ha weak word play ? thats poor from you francie ,
which call themselves vs it calls itself
your busted again demanded proof and not liking it when provided but that is unusually weak from you .
RSF v SF
Two different names Mike.
You were asked a specific question. You got the answer wrong.
You claimed, bizarrely, this is just a 'cover party'.
Alright go ahead, show us your evidence for that...coz the IMC and all monitoring bodies seemed to have missed it.
If you have evidence that they are a cover and it stacks up, I can guarantee you SF will not get a vote from me.
Deal?
Ok...fire away with the evidence.
provisional sf v sf ? any bells going off ?
you already have two links francie , like is said many time when you "goys " get called on the bs you dont like it
Still hiding out in the history books?
SF never called themselves 'Provisional' that was Cathal Goulding (even when given the info you guys ignore it) calling them the 'Provisional Alliance' and picked up by journalists.
Try again Mike.
And what 'links' provide evidence that RSF are just a 'cover' for SF?
Getting more and more bizarre out on that limb mike...soon time to deploy the escape 'Ill leave you to it' hatch that dudley uses when asked for back up for his contentions.
I see Joe Duffy blamed Sinn Fein over Ben Gilroy’s horrible social media activity
He did retract the statement nearly 1 hour still but still hes a disgrace
Its was Provisional IRA and Provisional SF. They dropped the Provisional later and most people just referred to PIRA as the IRA.
The story above isn’t true and you need to research a bit more
A good article here on it.
The Goulding story is fact.
with the Officials referring to their rivals as the "Provisional Alliance", while the Provisionals referred to the Officials (IRA and Sinn Féin) as the "NLF" (National Liberation Front). To add to the confusion both groups continued to call their respective political organisations in the North the "Republican Clubs".[70]
History of Sinn Féin - Wikipedia
click the citation '70' for the source of the above.
SF have only recently become comfortable with the Provisional tag. The IRA afaik, always hated it.
😁At least we got to the bottom of where the story 'they were founded in the 70's' came from - Varadkar was you source dudley?
Looks like Sinn Fein created their own wiki website. I will refer again to the Nazi trying to rewrite history, seems like the Provisional SF are up to the same trixks
yeh and wrote the book named as the source. Conspiracy forum thataway >>>>>>
Plenty of real websites available, no need for SF makey uppey, RTe above, Journal etc etc all have article and al
confirm the provisional SF.
Just seems odd you and SF would go to all this trouble to try hide it’s past?
Dev's account to the Dáil in 1947 completely contradicts that RTE article.
As I said, a murky period of our history with jockeying for legitimacy, tracks being covered and a sleeveen attempt to finish off SF and keep them disconnected etc. Transparent as it is pointless.
Now you are a history expert? give over Francie.
Is this place not a current affairs section?
I read dudley and don't invent fantastical conspiracy theories to cover my lack of knowledge.
I also back up anything I claim.
If you can back up your theories that the Shinners wrote a book in 2009 containing the Goulding story as part of this rewriting history..please do.
And if Dev's address to the Dàil is not contradicting the RTE link, please tell us how it is.
Am I wasting my time asking AGAIN? I fear so
ya history , actual history is a real hurdle for terrorist organisations isnt it ?
It seems fairly desperate to me to link Provisional SF back. Leave you to it
so it matters what the sf you support call them selfs but not what other sfs call them selfs ? bemusing
but isnt that convenient for your ever changing arguments deflections and redirects
you asked for other organisations that have aped the name sf in other to claim a direct link to historical sf , i gave you a list , you pretended they dont matter because ....... who fing knows
did you not read the article or did you not understand it ?
its really quite clear and easy to understand for anyone or are you claiming its some sort of "free stater" propaganda ?
However, during the mid-1980s its second leader, Gerry Adams, argued the party could achieve more by dropping its abstentionist policy, and entering parliament – just as Fianna Fáil and Official Sinn Féin had previously. In 1986, Adams convinced the majority of members, and Provisional Sinn Féin registered as a political party in the Republic a year later. As the Sinn Féin name had been discarded by The Workers’ Party, Provisional Sinn Féin was free to register simply as Sinn Féin.
surely its time to swallow your misplaced provo pride and admit your wrong francie
what?
No sense there. Hereis my claim, backed up with Dev transcript where he says what I am saying, the SF party didn't disappear in the 20's, they certainly diminished but a party reained.
They lost the case about the money on technical legal issues. It did not rule on the continuity of the party.
The split in the 70's was a split of that party...there was no new party in the 70's.
I also said and backed up that it was Goulding that named them the Provisional Alliance and the Provisional name stuck.
the above post and actions of adams contradict and disprove your lies , once again
They 'registered' because you have to be registered to take seats in the Dáil. This is school civics stuff.
Read this section again and see can you spot a glaring statement of the obvious.
In 1986, Adams convinced the majority of members, and Provisional Sinn Féin registered as a political party in the Republic a year later. As the Sinn Féin name had been discarded by The Workers’ Party, Provisional Sinn Féin was free to register simply as Sinn Féin.
Bascially what that is saying is 'that Adams decided to name SF ....SF'.
An ability to know when a writer is steering you to think in a certain way, is desirable mike.
not even Orwell could stomach your political double speak , there is cast iron evidence from your own party leader and terrorist mouth piece of the existence of some thing you claim never existed .
can your even see out of the hole you've dug for your self ?
