sparky42 wrote: » No real surprise there tbh, I mean 2 stll isn't enough but given the shape the AC is in there was never real hope for more than that.
Larbre34 wrote: » Along with the PC-12s it does represent enhanced capability to be fair.
Keplar240B wrote: » IS there any talk of getting drones?
sparky42 wrote: » Sure but with the rate Brexit is going we might have to assume increased MPA in the Irish Sea and around NI as well as an upswing in other EU boats in our waters, add in the potential UN/EU demand for such assets if the DF was treated better those would be areas to actually increase capabilities rather than just getting by.
Larbre34 wrote: » I couldn't agree more, but manpower is surely top of the task list. I doubt the AC could operate 2 x 295s and 3 x PC-12s to their full operational potential if they all dropped in their laps tomorrow.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » They've already purchased a few apparently.
sparky42 wrote: » The Government has signed a contract for 2 295's for €220 million with delivery in 2023:https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/air-corps-to-receive-two-new-planes-970329.html
Savage93 wrote: » How come cost of 110 million euro each when (albeit) wikipedia quotes unit cost of 28 million per in 2013.
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What an outlandish waste of money...😡
Who makes these decisions and whose advice are they getting.??
What's your alternative proposal, then?
What are you on about? They are well needed and there should be more of them ordered imo.
And lost one
A) The Government of Ireland.
B) The Defence Forces General Staff, the Department of Defence, the Irish Coastguard, the Department of Public Expenditure, the Department of Transport, the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, the EU Commission, Europol and the EU Maritime Analysis and Operations Centre.
Any other questions?
Just so you know, before you give yourself an embolism, these two planes are replacing 2 older models, who by the time they are replaced will have been in service for a combined 60 years, working on search and rescue, illegal drug shipments, fisheries protection, air ambulance and general utility transport, including of late transporting thousands of COVID tests to Germany for analysis because our labs were full.
If we get half the value from the new 295s that we got from the 235s, it will be money excellently spent.
Well that was the army wasn’t it?
Drones cost between €30 and €200 million. Suggestions to buy them would probably have to narrow that choice down.
An update on the first of the new CASA's
https://twitter.com/GOCAirCorps/status/1467513104351252481
Yes they did go to Appledore. More than once.
Maybe they all got to sign the inside?
No. There were several visits.
There were also visits to Pilatus and to GDELS-Mowag from mixed tech/non-tech mil/civ delegations in recent years. And also not so recent years for that matter. Its just part of the customer experience.
Not sure why you would be, turgid set-pieces on red-eye flights and Government issue hotel rooms.
I feel you brother.
I see that the Brazilian armed forces have cancelled about 50% of their order for the KC 390 airlifter. This frees up some production slots which would mean a timely opportunity to place an order for one or two of these for early delivery.
It also means a smaller user base with knock on costs.
I don't imagine that the running costs of one aircraft is going to cripple the economy, given that it will be fairly lightly used. In fact the AC could probably make some money doing a bit of charter work on an ad hoc basis