Trump signed the deal with the Taliban to withdraw ffs😅
He literally handed Afghanistan back to the Taliban.
That's about the soviet occupation and American covert efforts to help the Afghans
Afghanistan has war in their blood for centuries. Afghans are Pashtuns or Pathans, warrior tribesman and it is in their genetics. Every Aghan and Pashtun I know over in the UK is solid as a rock, has a killer streak and knows their heritage very well. Very tough people and the west doesnt know the resilience and vengance a Pashtun has.
Look through out history.
This was always going to be the end result unfortunately.
20 years, what an embarrassment.
A clear decline of modern intellect is visible from the folk who are pitting it as Trump v Biden.
It's not.
I hesitate to answer a q posed by someone with that user name, but see above.
Usually used in relation to the U.S., but rogue states such as the U.K., Russia, France, China and others have massive arms industries and militaristic tendencies too. :D
As the sobriquet goes, the graveyard of empires.
They love a fight alright
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I wonder will Afghanistan be in the news in a month's time or will it be totally forgotten by Western media?
The enigma of the long war in Afghanistan could be resolved by just looking at the strong ties of the Pashtun as a major ethnic group on power, with Tribalism in a multiethnic Afghanistan that is going forward.
You can also see the serious threats and challenges Tribalism could create against the coexistence of other ethnicities; that could cause even an ethnic clash, as well as it is against the progress and development of the whole country.
It’s going to get much worse than it already is.
Apparently not no ,
just Ask the 300,000 Afghan soldiers about liking a fight.
There's uk troops going there to help UK citizens apparently there's lots of British people still there the airport is in a state of chaos with people trying to get out the taliban are going round looking for people who were pro American god help people like female journalists and TV presenters who were pro human rights and equality its all well covered on gautrdian.co.uk or drudge.com
I think people in kabul were naive as they thought it would take at least a month for the taliban to take control there's even one brit who went on holiday to kabul and is still there
I hope the embassy's are destroying all pcs hardrives dara storage as this info could be used to find people who worked with the US military eg translators journalists etc
There is only one side making this out to be Trump v Biden.
And it's not those who would prefer Biden who, from what I can see, have been clearly unanimous in what a sh*tshow this is.
The people who are crying about the US not doing something about the Taliban are the same people wringing their hands and clutching their pearls because Obama used drone strikes to take out terrorists in the middle east.
Biden is right. If the Afghan government and the Afghan army are going to run away from the Taliban, who by the way are not at all well resourced militarily, then why should a US family bury a son or daughter for that cause.
The Taliban regained their strength in the last 4 years. Not in the last 8 months.
I get the impression much of this is on Biden. He was very defensive and evasive in his address, suggesting he had made the decisions and perhaps overruled intelligence and national security. It very much looked like a guilty party trying to justify his way out of a mess.
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What would anyone go to Kabul on a holiday?
Getting visa would be next to impossible
Reality is that a huge number of people in Afghanistan want to see the taliban back in power.
The US were right to leave..should have done it long before this. And the travesty of so many people losing their lives for nothing now is also a very bitter pill to swallow. If the Afghanis themselves arent going to fight for their own country what place has the US got there.
The only thing western countries can do now is negotiate with the taliban to maintain an orderly flow of refugees out of the country if they so wish and provide a safe place for them to stay. Of course, as we have seen with Syria..this is never going to happen unfortunately.
Trump, Biden and Obama were told numerous times the Afghan army were not up to it. Just reading today about how the Taliban didn't fight their way to Kabul, they negotiated their way there. Afghan army was in trouble without US backing and air force and once the US left only a matter of time before the Taliban took over, which is why those in control of the cities handed over the key so easily.
The Afghan army was 300,000 on paper. On paper is the key point. In reality only about 50,000 were up to it and the rest melted away at the first sign of trouble. US intel was shockingly bad on Afghanistan.
This is exactly what I argued well over an hour ago. And, despite the criticism received so far, it's no less true now.
Biden has presided over an absolute, unmitigated catastrophe, yet he wants to blame everyone else for the direct cause.
How is it humiliating for 'the brits'? They had no part in this decision.
I just can't believe that MIC would ever let idiots like Trump or Biden make significant decisions. There is too much at stake. The Presidential thing is a Punch and Judy show for the masses. So that whole discussion seems irrelevant.
What did you want him to do ????
Give some alternative options you could have suggested to biden or anyone else
Western countries need to stop interfering in these countries. Liberating them has never worked, all it does is create another stream of refugees for Europe to have to absorb and provide for.
They are very much to blame for stroking off that clown Bush whenever he clicked his fingers.
Everyone on here seems to be gunning for Trump or Biden but it was Bush and his dirty "war on terror" that landed both presidents and Obama in an unwinnable situation
Yes, I know how they operate....control without firing a shot. Its their Standard Operating Procedure. ( as several Countrys have found out, to their cost, like you say) But as many more before them have found out ( the US being the latest) Afghanistan is different. And the Taliban are a different kind of enemy. We will have to wait a bit now and see how it develops, but for now the Taliban are on a high having defeated the Great Satan as they see it, and feel that they can dictate terms.
It will be totally forgotten next week. When the taliban were running Afghanistan back in the 90’s no one gave a tuppence ha’penny damn about Afghanistan.
The Nazis came and went.
The Cold War came and went.
international terrorism came next and now it pales in significance to pandemics and climate change fall out.
Thats where it’s at now for the next 20/30 years. Floods, droughts , virus control, wars over scarce diminishing resources .
Charlie Kirk and Peirs Morgan. Keep going you're doing great, next stop Tucker Carlson, Rudy Giuliany, Marjory Taylor Green and the My Pillow guy.
She might prefer to stay out there in that case.
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