What is a MIC?
Charlie Kirk has put it better than I ever could.
Yet sagion didn't have a modem trained ,and well equipped military numbering 300,000 strong supposedly be protecting it ,
An army of 300,000 just vanished without as much as single firefight ,
How so?
I assume they thought pulling out slowly would tip off groups like the Taliban but it seems they were fully aware and ready.
Absolute disaster from US intelligence, Pentagon and Biden.
There was no easy way out and many critics pointed out 20 years ago that this was always a disaster waiting to happen. But there were surely better days than this
Stop with the bollocks talk. You don't have the first clue what you are trying to talk about here.
if he was president of Afghanistan or general of the Afghanistan army I would agree. It’s not up to the US to run Afghanistan for their people. They got 20 years of investment, hardware and training and they lost a massive country in a month to a battle hardened militia who have the same weapon sophistication as the provos had. It should be virtually impossible to lose land that quickly to an army with no air support and no real heavy artillery unless they weren’t actually trying.
The same goes for Trumpy if he was in charge still. It’s not on him ultimately.
Who'd have thought the live to see the day where humans look like barnacles on the side of a plane trying to escape from an impending broken promise.
What an f-up.
I tend to agree. The alternatives to U.S. power are no better and indeed likely worse. Russia and China have their own MICs going on, I'm well aware. Militarism is the problem, not the soldiers and not the specific nation that's disrupting the global peace at any given moment.
Best sow seeds of discord in Russia instead :D
Some say, is this Saigon?
No, it's obviously not Saigon.
It's worse than Saigon.
I think Truman coined the phrase.
If anyone thinks that this hasn't been an unmitigated disaster is just fooling themselves, and it's entirely down to the cack handed US withdrawal, not the Afghans or anyone else. And "if not now, when" is simply not a good enough reason to throw tens of thousands, if not more, civilian allies to the slaughter. Biden has to own this. It's absolutely disgraceful.
That said, the withdrawal had bi-partisan support, so the US political system in its entirety is not blameless either.
Resign over what??
Trump made this deal with the Taliban.
Biden is just following through.
our part of the world (Europe) depends on the US for protection from Putin’s Russia so no, pursuing said plan would not be in our interests.
@jmreire have a look at Montenegros new highway which is costing them 40millon per mile being built by a Chinese company with a 1billion loan from China ,if they don't pay the bill on time or can't pay they sign the roads over to Chinese companies for 99 years ,they currently control ports and other infrastructure in multiple countries using the same tactic
Joe Biden should resign over this imo.
Joe Soap cares about America looking like bitches, yet again
Joe Soap cares about the GIs that died in Afghanistan for a sum total of SFA
… Ah yes SF
U speak Afgan?
sleepy joe needs to get rid of his pro taliban security advisers I think he must reget his election he is sorry to say he looks in a daze any time he appears infront of a camera.
should be age limit on US presidents remember the last term of Ronald Reagan
It seems Hamas have congradulated the taliban probably SF next.
Joe soap American voter doesn't give a shite about Afghanistan.
Working???? 😎 Its a nice Country to work in. ( normally, that is 😊) but look at the positive side of it, what tales she will have to tell !!!😀
Without any reference to the botched performance of what has transpired over the past 3-days?
Fucking hell...
HE IS LITERALLY ACCEPTING THE FINAL RESPONSIBILITY.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
the chinese gold medal winners* at 10m dive has less spins dan bidwn croyns here.
Trump - tick.
9/11 and the original cause - tick
We cannot be there forever - tick
...but no mention of the past three days hectic, avoidable, and chaotic withdrawal.
It's insincere. It was injected into the speech, with the context behind it totally and deliberately ignored.
It's also why he ignored taking questions from journalists.
Just imagine what the media response would be if Trump did exactly the same thing.
How in the name of God have we managed to get Irish people inside Afghanistan? What the hell would Irish people be doing there. They've created real hassle now by being there. Stupid.
I'll say it again.
He is LITERALLY saying that the ultimate responsibility lies with him.
That doesn't mean he is alone. It means that he is accepting the final responsibility.
And a seemingly inexhaustible supply of suicide bombers.......not mention world class skills in manufacturing all manner of IED's, VBIED's and more than likely many other explosive un-named devices. Exactly what caused the US to leave, and destroyed the Afghan Government. over time of course, but even so, relatively quick. I can't see the Taliban giving the same terms and conditions to the Chinese as they have to other Countrys they have "invested" in? Plus, would they be able to take over the property / facility which was given as security for the loan??? I doubt it very much..
Empire overextended at home and abroad and in collapse. Has been since the start of the War on Terror.
As we saw over recent days, a slow collapse would be preferable, but there are some frankly ugly and difficult questions we need to ask, such as 'Would it better if the U.S. collapsed into civil war, given that they would be harming themselves and not other countries? And if so, should we hasten matters by encouraging the partizan halfwits that are driving the U.S. in that direction to continue with their extremist nonsense?'
It's an awfully easy thing to say.
Whether he means it is another question. If he were sincere, Biden wouldn't have launched a litany of blames to everyone else for what has transpired.
"I take full responsibility for the situation, but the real cause of blame is X, Y, and Z" - that is effectively what Biden did tonight.
He looks like a tourist.
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