According to the BBC Pakistan shut it's borders earlier today.
Just Google the terms Hijab or burka with feminism and you get a load of opinion pieces about how westerners have it all wrong about Islamic women being forced to cover up. There's a lot about Trump thrown in for good measure but now he's gone it's of no relevance, just like the notion that wearing a hijab is an act of feminist resistance against him.
A major purge coming. The country has been abandoned.
Some image.
Wonder was there much US equipment etc. left in KAD?
I'm not sure if any of that would outweigh American opinion that it's not worthwhile staying there and they have spent a trillion dollars on the war.
To what end would they be staying?
I think most just want to leave them to it. Biden is right that Afghanistan is best placed to build a better future for Afghanistan.
Yeah they have to go back to the dark ages for a while but hopefully over time it can evolve naturally.
If it's not their will they need to exert their will. As it stands they have a murderous fundamentalist regime in charge again. The time to stand up to them is upon them.
This whole situation shows how little interest the western powers had in the future of Afghanistan, they were happy to perpetuate conflict for two decades and now they've left the people of Afghanistan in the lurch, they must feel powerless. Yet another victim of the Neo Cons and their PNAC agenda, the human cost isn't even considered.
Oh I fully agree with you Kermit. But the way that it was done has been a disaster.
I don't think that that country should ever have been occupied. Foreign forces on anyone's land is only a recipe for endless war.
The Internet will reinforce your own prejudice. I know of not one person in my circle of friends, who consider themselves of the Left, who in any way excuse the utter misogyny of Islamist practice. They fight for women's rights, and against bigotry. Maybe you are thinking of some misguided Liberals.
The US have been carrying out a lot of bombing raids, targetting fuel/ guns / ammunition / vehicles locations. And whats left of anything sophisticated missiles etc will need codes to operate. Even so, they will still pick up a sizeable amount of military hardware.
You were talking about the left as one entity saying that the left thinks wearing the burka is feminism. I never heard that once in my life, it sounds like complete bs.
Then to Google burka feminism it will show opinion pieces saying its feminism. Opinion pieces by who? Made up by trolls? Or just nonsense from conservatives in the Arab world who want to enforce the Hijab on everyone there.
Either way Its just remedial level stuff.
The "new" country is going to be called the "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan"
Anthony Blinken, U.S. Secretary of State said that the Afghan National Army was provided with sophisticated modern equipment, and there was even an air force put in place. Did the Americans pack up all that stuff and take it with them as they left, or did it largely fall into Taliban hands?
A lot if hardware, and thousands of released prisoners, including IS.
Do I need to give you links or can you do the remedial work of searching for things yourself?
We shouldn't lump all parts of "the left" into one group but that very logic is used in relation to the right. The mind boggles.
As it happens some prominent mainstream news outlets wrote a number of the articles I spoke of.
You call bullshit without doing any research. Wonderful stuff indeed.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/15/hijab-becomes-symbol-resistance-feminism-age-trump/98475212/
Muslim women in a free society choosing to wear a hijab being described as an act of defiance, fine, but what about the complete lack of rights afforded to women in Muslim countries, they have no choice. Mental gymnastics as advertised.
They look like absolutely no craic...
Saudi Arabia evacuating it's mission now and the US sending 1,000 more troops to aid theirs.
When a regime is too hard core for the Saudis...
Links are up in reply to another poster.
Washington Post, New York Times, USA Today or as you might say "opinion pieces by whoever".
Saying you may be able to do a simple Google search isn't a big ask in terms of research.
If you absolutely have to be condescending when replying to somebody and casually calling BS you should know what you're on about at the very least.
They'd probably take that as a compliment.
True, Haha 🙂
This is the moment a US missile should have landed in that room.
Taliban have let loose all the people in prison, all running free now.
CNN are like '' The Presidential Palace has been handed over in beautiful ceremony to the Taliban ''
WTF
Tell it like it is CNN, Biden fcked up big time.
Number of western civilians like this one dotted around the country...
No Country likes to be occupied by a foreign power, but for sure, Afghans did not have their most stable period under the Taliban. What they did have was food, water and electricity shortages. Little or no health care, massive childbirth death rates, crumbling roads and bridges, and a population living in fear. No sports allowed, and football pitches used for public Sharia Law punishments of the most brutal kind. No functioning economy ( except the drug trade) Natural disasters, earthquakes, flooding etc, and famine. Several times during their reign, the UN and other Humanitarian actors had to step in to feed the population, or help with handling natural disasters. Most of these crisises can be laid directly at the feet of the Taliban's mis-management of the Country. For them,it was always a case of Ins'h Allah. As God Wills. Of their long history, the 20 years with the Americam have been the most peaceful, and most of the problems encountered have been externally generated. No other "Invader" has ever spent so much time and money on helping Afghanistan.
I never used the term "all the left thinks" anything.
You inferred that I was talking about opinion pieces written by random people online. You didn't do any research to back that up, I provided links from three mainstream media outlets to back up what I said. Now you're resorting to describing what I'm saying as "dopey shite" designed to derail these type of threads.
I talk about a notion that was widely reported on and pushed by mainstream media outlets and you see that as meaning there's no hope for me? And now for the good of the thread you're going to leave me to it?
You made assertions about what I said being BS, you did no research to validate that claim and as soon as you are provided with links you start whinging about the thread being derailed.
You did get one thing right, there is no hope for some people.
They look like a bunch of demented hillbillys.
Once every non-Afghan is evacuated the international airport should be closed for everything except humanitarian aid, let them ruin the country for a while the Red Cresent should provide humanitarian care. They will implode within a few months and that might be the start of sorting the mess out (maybe)
Are some people really having trouble with comparisons here?
COMPARED to nearly 30 out of 40 years of foreign occupation/outright war and several years of infighting, the "most stable" period Afghanistan has known was in the 90's. Nobody's saying it was a utopian democracy, but to most Afghans it was their home rule.
The fact of the matter, whether we like to admit it or not, is that the Afghans would rather have the Taliban in power than a foreign occupier, irrespective of what we, in the west, think of them. This is the reason why there's no resistance to them. A band of a few hundred thousand men that's been hiding out in the mountains for much of the last two decades.
Their hatred of women shows what kind of weak and cowardly men they are. There are some breakthroughs in the middle east though, Saudi Arabia is changing, albeit very slowly, Iran in private isn't very religious by all accounts.
It may take decades but change can come eventually, it's hard to fight against technological progress these days, although not impossible.
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