Not entirely western europe in 1940s would agree with you.
Maybe you should get the Koreans to vote which side of the border they prefer living on.
Wave of support or unable to defend themselves against them?
I'd say for starters, all previous and present Govt contracts with the Chinese ( and everyone else) will be declared null and void, and new one's negotiated,but strictly on Taliban terms. And also what effect will China's treatment of the Uighurs' have on a future relationship? Now that they are in power, the military part may well prove to be the easiest part...providing for the needs of a population of just under 40 million is not an easy task..especially under sanctions.
My guess is this will be over by tonight. Afghan army only have control in the city center, and that's probably only until everyone is out before they melt away or leave themselves. It's Saigon all over again, at a lightning pace.
We had troops in Afghanistan fwiw. So we were directly involved.
The only people who can save Afghanistan is the Afghan population.
Foreign intervention and hoping to "civilize" the uncivilized almost never works. The world is crammed with awful regimes that subjugate their own populations. The Taliban is just one such example. We cannot go around every country to "free" everyone.
As awful as the Taliban are, it was clearly inevitable that this was going to happen.
Yes it probably was inevitable at some point but I don’t think many expected it to be this swift and seemingly absolute. Even the US president and his top cabinet secretaries never said that the Taliban wouldn’t control major parts of Afghanistan, but them seemed to believe it would take some time.
How were the Irish defence forces involved ?
Considering that the Afghanis know exactly what their future holds, I’m shocked that they allowed themselves to be walked over. It’s incredible to see the country get taken over without any reported battles.
It's a dark day for the people of Afghanistan
The Taliban are on the streets of Kabul now, armed. It's over....
99 percent of Afghanis support and desire Sharia Law, which is exactly what the Taliban are offering.
For many Afghanis, this is a very good day indeed.
87 percent of Somalians strongly support Sharia Law, a country being taken over by Al Shabaab.
Here is evidence from Pew polling:
The data indicates that Muslim support for implementation of Sharia as national law is highest in Afghanistan, at 99 percent support, in Iraq, at 91 percent, and in the Palestinian territories, at 89 percent. It's lower elsewhere, including in Egypt, where support is 74 percent. Muslims in historically secular Turkey and Azerbaijan indicated 12 and 8 percent support, respectively, for adopting Sharia.
That Turkish figure looks very low, especially in a country with a still very conservative eastern region. There was a survey done in Ireland a few years ago and the percentage was way way higher in Ireland
Not everyone follows Sharia Law/Way the way the Taliban choose to interpret it.
So saying people desire to follow Sharia, is not really the same as they support Taliban version of it.
No word of what happening with NATO and US forces there. They hardly got them all out in one day.
I assume they are all out at this stage or at least out of Taliban reach and close to leaving. No way could the West allow them to get caught there now. China/Russia/Iran and Pakistan are the major players there now, up to them to deal with the situation whatever that entails...
Of course, longer term, this takeover by the Taliban will trigger an enormous number of refugees to flee the country.
There is already a sizeable number of Afghan migrants in Europe, I assume that, in the near future, this will become significantly larger with the coming migratory wave.
The operative of your post:
"they allowed themselves to be walked over".
Looks like the airport is under fire.
So so many international passenger flights going through Afghan airspace, is that really safe now, considering the amount of Afghan Fighter Jets and other missiles abandoned and left for the Taliban.
You have American airlines, and British Airlines all happy to fly into Afghan airspace on their way to their destinations.
This will be the most equipped Taliban ever, Billions of highly sophisticated weapons all left for them to use.
The US diplomatic situation is confusing and it seems the diplomatic mission is in utter chaos. Secretary of State Anthony Blinkenn has stated that they have moved the embassy to the US airport and that they are not leaving as occurred in Saigon. However US officials are now advising that the airport is under sustained fire. It's hard to imagine how the diplomatic mission can continue.
Doesn't seem to be that many?
Think British Airways has already ordered flights to avoid Afghan airspace
This is getting more and more disastrous. Will we see American troops forced to fight to rescue the last of their remaining staff?
Whats new? Afghanistan has been an Islamic Country for many years, and of course Sharia Law has always been the law of the land...its not something new that the Taliban have brought in...what is new is their brutal interpretation of it. And thats something no Afghan wants. The Taliban using it as justification for their actions, is just perversion, same as isis.
It's no surprise considering the grounds around the airport currently resembles a battlefield.
Plenty, it's ongoing. All happy to fly into Afghan airspace.
Most international overflights seem to switch their AIS off, or its not picked up over Afghanistan. Click on a few international flights that have flown over Afghanistan and their will a gap in their route there.
i think the taliban will be happy to let all the westerners leave. why would they want to stop them?
also all the tv pics i'm seeing show a lot of smiling men in kabul. the population seem to think it's a great day. taking loads of pics of themselves on their phones...which leads to another question...how are the taliban going to deal with the 20 something year old fighters who have grown up with smart phones and apps...considering music is not even allowed to be played on the radio...i don't think the young taliban fighters will be so keen to give up their technology
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