Very telling how the Irish Times and Independent used the killing of Lyra McKee to talk about the IRA and Sinn Fein the week of the election. Shameless using of people.
You should feed that back into SF at the next meeting, everyone is trying to move on from the troubles but SF TD etc keep on bringing it back up.
Its not poster on here but the SF party itself.
You've not been following the thread so.
Not a shinner. You lads are haunted by criticism and need to create a big conspiracy :)
Are you saying you are not a shinner? Has any of the posters on here said they are?
Did you read the post on Government thread who made up that a political party is paying someone to write a book and the author is currently walking around with wads of cash offering it for stories on SF
Now that’s a humdinger of a conspiracy. Total BS but hilarious to read
I read the one where you lied and said I was calling posters racist and you ran away when questioned on it.
All I see here is you trying to justify what I commented on, rather than disagree with it. Which is fine. The idea that everyone critical of FG is a shinner is worrying. I suppose OgraFF are shinners :)
lol thats your response to being called out trying to deflect from the fact that the ira were a real and dangerous threat innocent people for financial gain .
seriously you guys have a big big problem with reality
The nuance mike that you missed -she was worried about being kidnapped and the IRA were not kidnapping at that time. The 'fear' was of the INLA, in particular Dessie O'Hare.
Never ceases to amaze how ill informed posters are on here.
You were wrong...simple as that.
You do have to realise some people have family/jobs etc so your accusation of “runaway” is something that is fired out here a lot when people don’t have the ability to sit on this forum 24x7
I have no recollection of a racism comment but has it anything to do with the topic we are currently discussing and SF constantly bringing up the troubles?
The ira fellows didnt get paid....hence the name volunteers
You guys arguements fall apart in face of facts and logic🤣🤣
So you want to bring the conversation back to the troubles. By your own assertion, you are a shinner. While I think they'll be better for workers trying to find somewhere affordable to live, I don't have your commitment, fair play.
your happy to let the orange order commemorate away in what ever way they see fit too i assume 🤔
I'd not have an issue with it myself, same as I've never had an issue with the likes of Charlie Flanagan etc wearing poppies, or attending RIC ceremonies.
I draw the line when people try to impose official, state commemorations though. That state commemoration for the Tans was an out and out abomination, and FG were rightly lambasted for it.
Absolutely no issue with respectful remembrance here either. As long as it is not done to taunt or triumphalise then I think that is where we will end up.
I really think, UI or not, a single day should be put aside for all victims and people allowed to do what they want (observing the caveats above) to remember.
ira sf is a non for profit organisation ? lol do i need to start posting links about millionaire provos ? will i start with slab ? northern bank robbery ? the holiday homes ? property all over and no explanation .
stop it will ya your embarrassing the party , and we all know what happens then ....
The lads at the very top seem to have done very well for themselves.
Those at the "useful idiot" end not so much.
How many houses was Adams running at one point despite only having an employment history of bar work and "average industrial wage" taking public representation.
Sums just don't add up.
the ira was involved in kidnapping people for money , do you deny that ? i ve posted proof that they were , please post proof that they were no if you want to continue this charade francie
you dont even know what you are out raged about
Commemoration controversy: Who were the RIC, DMP, Black and Tans, and Auxiliaries? (irishtimes.com)
You have no issue with it once it meets your guidelines.
I do actually, and unfortunately for fg, so did the vast majority of the population.
Your "it's not us, it's you" and "reasonable people" tripe might be straight out of the FG party handbook, but it won't wash here in afraid Mike.
The “tans” event never happened, if you want to get outraged about everything that might happen in life you are going to spend a long time outraged
I'm not outraged it never happened, I found their embarrassing climb down and u-turn hilarious.
No, the IRA were involved in kidnapping people but not at that time. Please take on board what was posted not what you THINK was posted.
Really? You should read your post again and come back to me
What?
Yeah, reread it, and I'm not seeing the contradiction. You may enlighten me dudley, don't scarper with a difficult question, I know you. You've form on that regard.
its “excuse me”(just a little joke)
My post was clear.
i think you might be confused there ( its not us and reasonable people stuff ? ) . the article you posted is right in saying that whole thing was turned into a face and the honest decent ric men (mostly Irish Catholics btw) who served as the islands police force pre independence were the losers for the sake of cheap political soundbites
You didn’t ask a question, you seem outraged about an event that never happened. If you are not then why mention it as part of the discussion?
This is what you posted and from my point of view it seems very outraged to me but maybe I’m wrong
“I draw the line when people try to impose official, state commemorations though. That state commemoration for the Tans was an out and out abomination, and FG were rightly lambasted for it.”
Not to me.
No idea what you mean.
I gave my opinion of what should happen re: commemoration. Of course they are 'guidelines'
Do you have a differing opinion? Which will be a different set of guidelines?
Do yu want me to suggest someone's else's guidelines...what was the point of your post in other words.
how many do you think the ira were involved in and how man the inla were involved in .
obviously the point your trying to deflect from is that ira were a much bigger criminal threat that inla
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