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Our most important passenger and freight ports

Amtmann

Following on from a discussion in the Roads Forum on the proposed M11 Oilgate to Rosslare scheme, it seems pertinent to start a thread on the relative importance of various ports outside of Dublin, such as Ringaskiddy vs Rosslare. This has implications for road investment. For example, which is more deserving of an upgrade: the N28 (Ringaskiddy) or the N11 (Rosslare)?

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roadmaster

I see galway port are looking at redevelopment including a deep water berth. With the motorway network development should we not be putting money in to foynes instead?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/plans-unveiled-for-exciting-redevelopment-of-galway-harbour-1.4556224

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roadmaster wrote: »

I see galway port are looking at redevelopment including a deep water berth. With the motorway network development should we not be putting money in to foynes instead?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/plans-unveiled-for-exciting-redevelopment-of-galway-harbour-1.4556224

Sure Foynes could handle what Galway port handles already. The fact most of Galway port is allocated to car parking shows how little it handles. A rail yard and import/export via other ports would be sufficient.

Pete_Cavan

Yes much of the existing Galway port is to be redeveloped as a modern city district

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1389876803704086534

Of course, that plan hinges on the development of the new deep water port which almost certainly means both will get caught up in environmental litigation for many years. Galway needs to forget about commercial port activities, as said, Foynes makes more sense for that and will only be a short motorway journey away once Adare is bypassed.

MyLove4Satan

That Galway port plan has no chance.

Apogee

Cork picking up some Brexit traffic too
https://twitter.com/PortofCork/status/1391720213708787713

CatInABox

https://twitter.com/CISireland/status/1396751612262051845

Apogee

https://twitter.com/PortofCork/status/1423203874341539840

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40352741.html

THE Port of Cork’s impressive Ship to Shore Gantry Cranes have moved into position at a new state of the art facility.

In 2020 the Port of Cork took ownership of two Ship to Shore (STS) Gantry Cranes for the new state of the art Port facility, Cork Container Terminal in Ringaskiddy.

The cranes were built by Liebherr Container Cranes Ltd in Killarney and were assembled onsite under the supervision of expert Liebherr engineers.

They have an outreach of 45m, a back reach of 15m and a lift height over rail of 32m.

Apogee

Another write up on on-going developments at Port of Cork

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40355873.html

marno21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117734085#Comment_117734085

All that’s needed for our 21st century port now is a 21st century access route and we’ll be motoring.

riddlinrussell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117734164#Comment_117734164

I'd argue just a motorway to the port is a 20th century access route, 21st would be a high standard rail cargo terminal, a local distribution facility for Cork area goods incorporating cargo bikes, and hydrogen/ev setup for truck transport, in addition to the motorway

Pete_Cavan

Foynes Port looking for consultants for their own new Deepwater terminal;

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/194992/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

And other RFT for consultancy services for the development of a new port on the north of Bremore Head, this is backed by Johnny Ronon and the email address given is @ronangrouprealestate.com;

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/194927/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

Apogee

Summary of RoRo trade and impact of Brexit

https://twitter.com/JP_Biz/status/1425718703044366336

tenant2b

Would waterford port be considered important? It seems very busy. I often see very large loads such as wind turbines and aircraft engines come in through it.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830867#Comment_117830867

most certainly i would say.

Apogee

Brexit continuing to have a huge effect on the landbridge and ports

Volumes of goods shipped directly from Ireland to the EU on new Brexit-busting ferry routes have rocketed by 50% in the past six months as exporters seek to avoid travelling across land through Great Britain, according to official data.

Figures published by the Irish Maritime Development Office (IMDO) show significant traffic diverted away from the traditional routes between Dublin and Britain to some of 32 new ferry services direct to ports such as Le Havre, Cherbourg and Dunkirk in France and Zeebrugge in Belgium.

The IMDO report shows freight volumes from Dublin port to Liverpool and Holyhead in Anglesey down 19% in the first three-quarters of 2021 compared with 2020 and down by 30% on the two routes from Rosslare in south-east Ireland to the Welsh ports of Pembroke and Fishguard.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/30/goods-shipped-directly-from-ireland-to-eu-up-by-50-in-six-months

Apogee

From tomorrow's Examiner

Apogee

€28m investment in Shannon Foynes for future offshore wind development:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/economy/arid-40829390.html

Presumably with an eye on plans by ESB's "planned fabrication facility for the construction and assembly of floating offshore wind turbines" at Moneypoint:

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0224/1282842-esb-lays-moneypoint-offshore-wind-plan-before-planners/

MyLove4Satan

No way is the Foynes line going to be put back in service. They are all lying through their teeth about that one.

Apogee

https://twitter.com/PortofCork/status/1512382832936734722

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117830867#Comment_117830867

Waterford has good direct ship to rail capability, and probably has loads of spare capacity. Currently it has a couple of weekly container trains to Ballina. Rising fuel prices can only improve the prospects for this traffic. Also Ireland has much higher track access charges for rail freight. Someone should tell Eamon Ryan to get off his bike on this issue.

Apogee

Two bits of port-related news items. Ringaskiddy container terminal begins operations today:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/new-86m-cork-container-terminal-in-ringaskiddy-to-open-1.4859283

Plan to make Rosslare a hub to facilitate offshore wind:

https://www.rte.ie/news/leinster/2022/0422/1293586-rosslare-energy-jobs/

Apogee

Cranes constructed by Liebherr in Killarney, assembled in Cobh and heading to US.

https://twitter.com/PortofCork/status/1562478677270532096

https://twitter.com/AlanMcC82/status/1562530131079757826

https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/companies/arid-40941584.html

[Deleted User]

Terminal 7 development approved for Rosslare

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/de08b-minister-mcgrath-obtains-government-approval-for-upgrade-works-at-rosslare-europort/

Apogee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119522254#Comment_119522254

They've reached NJ/NY

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1569349693087387652

Pete_Cavan

Tender issued for enabling works at Marino Point;

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/222365/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

This is an important project because it is a JV between Port of Cork and Goulding Chemicals who want to relocate its existing fertiliser facility from Cork’s south docklands, allowing it to be redeveloped. Marino Point has a deep water berth and can connect to the rail network so is a good opportunity to grow rail freight.

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119591566#Comment_119591566

Tender for Rosslare Europort Terminal 7 and Enabling Works has been issued;

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders/ViewNotice/266095

Estimated total value

Value excluding VAT: 200000000.00 EUR

Pete_Cavan

Rosslare Europort now tendering for consultants for the Preliminary Design and Planning and Statutory Process phases for their Offshore Wind Port Facilities Project;

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/222412/1/0

lucernarian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118796500#Comment_118796500

This post aged exceptionally badly, there's already 42km of new rail and sleepers arriving in Foynes today for the job.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119873464#Comment_119873464

it did thankfully but to be fair his cinicism was understandable.

[Deleted User]

Maybe this will boost the chances of a major redevelopment of Galway Port

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/port-of-galway-included-in-major-eu-transport-funding-programme/

Doubt it though, but maybe