I went DIY route. I got no grant and got a mate Sparks nominated on the NC6. Obviously cheapest option of all, and know my system inside out.
SaaS with a grant will bring the system close to DIY costs, but without the hassle of getting up on your roof, or getting the NC6 signoff, etc. Also, no need for a wedge of cash up front, and the cost per month like the cost of a Netflix sub
Standard install only worth it if you can get the price per kWp down under €1000, and planning a system larger than 3kWp
In my opinion, the difficult choice is whether to go pay SaaS per month, or buy it out. Only worth buying out if you want to extend the system I think
Quotes Include Vat but exclude €1800 grant
Dublin based. Do these seem high?
Nowhere near the rule of thumb of €1k for 1KW
Thoughts welcome - I wanted to also look at Solar as a service options but no replies yet from any supplier.
10 x340W JA Solar Panels 3.4kWp
Solis PV Invertor
Solis Monitoring Kit
EDDI Hot Water Diverter
Total price including VAT: €6,700
SolarEdge PV Invertor
SolarEdge Monitoring Kit
SolarEdge 5kW Hot Water Diverter
Total price including VAT: €7,800
10 x340W Q-Cell G8+ Panels 3.55kWp
Total price including VAT: €8,700
10 x355W LG Neon Solar Panels 3.55kWp
Total price including VAT: €9,500
Thank you for the reply. I haven't thought of the size we would require. I'll have to look into it.
New to all this, but got first quote of €4,000 (including grant)
An extra panel if I signed up !
There was also a water heater option for another €1,500, not sure if I'm pushed too much as we have a tank fed electric shower (but could change as we are renovating bathroom).
Am I on the right track?
I could stretch for more panels but they'd have to go on the other side of the roof
Could someone PM details of any SAAS providers they have used/recommend please. Might be the good option for me but there is so many paid ads for solar i'm struggling to find people that actually provide this service. Thanks in advance!
Well @SouthWesterly got about 3.5kWp for about €3.2k from SaaS (my*****.or I think) and you could just buy it out straight away.
Utterly bonkers quotes which could never in their lifetime pay for themselves.
I think people should just ask for panels quotes. You can then addon, and see what the add-ons are costing.
All over priced by at least 50%
I have tried to get them itemised and seems to be impossible!
SaaS appears to be the most transparent of pricing ways to get solar. And if you only want 10 or so panels, you can haggle for the three above their fixed price for the first seven panels.
You can easily add an Eddi or whatever later
What's SaaS ?
Is there a thread to learn basic definitions like SaaS kwp , kWh and Eddi?
Solar as a Service Lots of companies seem to be offering that but the one everyone here is referring to has a deal which is 19.99 a month. There is a Solar Tips etc thread so fee free to ask there for the other terms.
Could someone PM the name of the Solar as Service companies they have used?
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Got 3.24kw and negotiated a group deal on extra panels which we paid for upfront.
We got 8/9 panels depending on orientation.
Another Quote.
10 x 400w (4kw) = 3,900 ( 1k per kw )
Now your talking.
Any hot water divertor. BER included?
Would appreciate your views on quote below please. Dublin based. South facing roof.
10 x 400w panels (4kWp) + 3kW Hybrid Inverter + 5kW battery + Eddi.
€11,850 inc VAT, less SEAI grant of €3,000 for total of €8,850.
Would appreciate PMs from other users with other recent Dublin based quotes.
Read the last 20 or so posts and you'll get your answer !!!
Just thinking, my 3.6kWp will generate about 3.0MW this year, so at 10c average per kWh, that will be a saving of €300 per year
Therefore, if I use every bit of my generation, and export nothing, in 10 years I will save about €3k (based on current pricing).
The bigger the system, the less your self usage will be.
So I suppose, if you spend over €1k per kWp (minimum of 3kWp), then your payback will be heading well north of 10 years.
Or am I wrong on my calculations ???
The inverter is to small for a starter, should be 5 to 6kw and its about €2000 ish too much
My setup was 16 panels 4.8 kw, a 7 kw battery a water divertor and a 5kw inverter.
I got it on the old grant of €3800, €8500 after grant. Two years ago.
I have added 4 more panels since the installation
Where do you get the 10c average? Also electricity prices are going up a fair bit so I think that shortens the payback.
But your numbers are about right. I have a 4.8kWsystem and I calculated 450 EUR saved last year - a bit more due to WFH. My prediction was 420 when I got the system.
Water No, BER yes.
Hi rameire, could you PM me the installer pls?
I know it's obvious but the biggest determining factor in Payback is the initial outlay.
I'd just get that as best as possible and then do your math on monthly/annual savings, don't cheat if you use night rate and accidentally work up savings based 100% on day rate.
I'm trending to very close to 9 year payback at present but that will reduce if electricity costs keep going the way they are.
My projected payback time was 14 years when I got my system two years ago. Commissioned 2 years this Saturday. The payback has come down slightly (not a huge amount) since I got an EV. But the rising electricity prices have probably shortened the payback some more. All this assumes zero cost of money because the payback is spread out over many years. But then a short payback wasn't the primary reason for getting solar.
Hi there.
Trying to get my head around this entire topic. Can anybody PM the SaaS company that most people seem to be using?
Thanks
Thanks to those that have sent PMs. Getting quotes starting to go in the right direction.
Quote 2: 10 x 400w panels (4kWp) + 5kW Hybrid Inverter + 5kW battery + Eddi.
€10,700 inc VAT, less SEAI grant of €3,000 for total of €7,700.
Quote 3: Quote 2: 10 x 400w panels (4kWp) + 5kW Hybrid Inverter + 4.8kW battery + Eddi.
€10,500 inc VAT, less SEAI grant of €3,000 for total of €7,500.
PMs for better quotes welcomed.
How does one get free batteries?😀
Is the technology not going to keep improving? So is starting small and adding on improved panels when batteries or grid payments (or both) are in place not better? There is being responsible for the planet and then there is burning money to give to the ESB. :D
Nope, not really. There is continuous improvements in panels, but the gain is tiny. Think the efficiency of a budget panel has gone from about 15% to about 20% in the last 5-10 years or so. Panel prices actually have gone up since I posted that as shipping costs from China have doubled or trebled. So my point stands, install as many panels as you can (installation costs more than the panels and it's not much more expensive in labour to install 12 than it is to install 4 panels), but go easy on the rest of the stuff (batteries / hybrid inverters / smart chargers etc)
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