That's one part of it.
The Martin O Sullivan statements are the other half.
It's too strange that they both agree and happened right in about the murder yet not investigated at all.
It wasn't fixed. She was sleeping in the room over the kitchen to get some warmth not in her regular bedroom.
What is the source for one of the people in the house stating the door was opened and shut at 7am? DPP report does not reference this and indicates his movements can be accounted for which casts serious doubt on MF early accounts reliability. If we was out thumbing on the road then are you saying he was unsuccessful, back in for breakfast and ended up getting dropped home in the afternoon? If the above is correct it would lean towards MF being correct in her original assertions that it was him in all 3 sightings. I would be surprised that the DPP report, which I hold as the most factually correct interpretation of all the evidence, would not mention this testimony of a door being opened in the AM.
If they suspect she was going there to hook up with someone it could be to salve their consciences and respect her memory.
If a cold case review is started the person who saw the woman in the jeep with the dark-skinned man should be sought. I am amazed the corroboration of MF's sallow-skimned man hanging around has never been probed. GSOC knew the witness' name.
Her husband said in his police interview she originally intended to return on Christmas Day. Which would be impossible as there are no flights out of Ireland on Christmas Day.
Sheridan does say that, also that that room had an electric heater, but also quotes the housekeeper "‘I got a heating repairman from Bantry and he fixed the problem and repaired the boiler. That was more than a week before Sophie arrived". And that she turned the heating on ready for Sophie's arrival. So did it not work well enough upstairs?
Sophie called a handyman while she was there but apparently a plasterer to redo the fireplace.
I’ve come across it in a few places but Michael Sheridan in ‘The Murder of Sophie’ names the person as Tony Doran, he said he met Ian in the house next morning at around 11am but that he had heard someone leaving around 7.30, he hadn’t heard anyone coming back. Ian talks about leaving the house but wasn’t sure what time or what he was planning on doing in the West Cork podcast.
Right, we’ve discussed the Fiesta at the petrol station at length, I’m wondering about the supposed speeding Fiesta seen the morning of the murder. There’s no mention of it in any of the main sources, the DPP file, Bailey’s court cases… Strange.
Her husband said she wasn't afraid of anything, and would be very cutting and insulting if rejecting an advance, so her experience with the white lady is strange.A film producer one would think would not be superstitious. What do you mean by "Mr Ungerer who by the way was exactly her type"
the scenery was beautifully shot in it but didn't find it engaging or informative (mind you, had listened to all of the WC podcast so knew a lot anyway).. found the Netflix series much better - and more informative
His cartoons were about bondage. Seemingly one of the documentaries she made was about bondage.
I remember now
I've often wondered would a person of Sophies profession and means have owned and used a camera or video recorder at this time with records of who she spent time with, where she visited etc
She had managed to get a ticket back to France on the 24th. Just heard it on the West Cork podcast. Listening to it again.
He was also successful, artistic, wealthy, famous and about 20 years older than her.
She once had an affair with a film director in his 60's while married to Daniel, but ended it to go back to him.
She was a very free spirit.
I wondered about this too. She was supposedly a film producer and yet in all the documentaries about her I see only about 5 seconds of audio of her voice. This wasn't in a technology dark age, 1996 was the year films like Michael Collins, Independence Day and Fargo were released. She really seems to be a blank page.
If IB was into bondage it would be being cited as more definitive proof he was guilty.
ikr? Everyone knows the more you tell people you did it the more innocenter you does become.
This inability to selectively quote is a complete pain. But here we go:
Someone on Baileys twitter feed keeps mentioning Jules Thomas's first husband/partner.
Anyone know anything about that?
On point 4, the torn pages from the job book, your explanation makes no sense for multiple reasons.
Also, even if some of the pages contained 'irrelevent' information, they had been in the book of evidence for years and gone through DPP process. Why remove them now? It makes no sense. Is this standard practice when a case is shelved by the DPP that the book of evidence is 'edited'?
From the Irish Examiner:
A total of 139 original statements are missing from witnesses and include original memos of interviews with Jules Thomas and Marie Farrell...
GSOC said their concern is further compounded by the fact that the specific pages missing are from the time when Mr Bailey seems to have first been identified as a potential suspect and as such they are potentially very significant.
It was noted during the review of the jobs books by GSOC that there were a number of issues about the actual records which could not be explained.
Forensic scientist Brian Craythorne found several pages had been removed from the Jobs Book, possibly by cutting with scissors. He found that the front fly sheet, the pages numbered 1 to 7 and pages 10 and 11 were missing.
These included the numbering such as Job number 277 jumping to 288 on the next page but there were no apparent missing pages. A number of pages were glued together with nothing in between them, meaning that the page numberings were also out of sequence.
And let's not forget:
The watchdog also said that due to a lack of cooperation for a number of gardaí it was not possible for it to fully establish some of the details pertaining to the arrests of Ian Bailey and Jules Thomas.
know what? are you just being nosey?
IB started a claim against the state and his solicitors were looking for the garda file and DPP reports for their case. The DPP report was then 'leaked' to the press while the judge had ruled it inadmissible due to it being composed almost entirely of opinion and conjecture rather than fact. The gardai would probably be justified in thinking sensitive elements of the case would have serious repercussions for people who gave information in good faith if it was made public. They may also have included references to local garda informants or methods of gaining intelligence that would compromise other cases. The chances of these pages containing 'Joe and I are thinking of planting evidence at the scene' or 'Myself and Danny falsified a few statements during our lunch break so are due 1 hour overtime' seems a lot less likely.
In one of her statements I think she indicated that he assaulted her too. She said something about feeling the force of his boots. The photo of her after one of Bailey`s assaults is pretty horrific. One can only imagine the fear her daughters must have had of him. I think Sheridan`s book described a male friend coming to stay after she had kicked Bailey out and he slept with a hammer under his pillow.
The poster refers to the information as being relevant. Something like: '... it wasn't mentioned in either documentary but look up Jules first husband and see what they were up to..'
Probably nonsense as most things on twitter, but just wondering if there's anything to it.
No, there is no justification for deliberately destroying written records of an ongoing investigation
None.
It wasn't a justification, it was a possible explanation.
This is utterly without foundation.
This kind of content is included in books of evidence all the time, and handled by the DPP and defence solicitors under disclosure. The DPP has concluded their investigation and parked the case. Why would the book of evidence somehow now be at risk, considering it contains sensitive information about the case (regardless of these 'edits') full stop aside from anything operational or relating to informants.
This is the same Gardai who tracked down Marie Farrell despite her phoning the confidential line and not wanting her name to be public?
We're now expected to believe they think there might be 'repercussions' years later for some other witnesses? Pull the other one.
I'll remind you some of the missing pages include:
There seems to be passing mention of him in episode 7 of the West Cork podcast.
Indeed.
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