I'd need to watch that back but I thought he'd blew for a free. Fergal Horgan kept Cork in it with a few soft frees during KK's strong period.
He should have added another 1 min for Cork, I think, made a sub after the 4 mins was announced. With that then, KK should have got the free at the end.
Cork were the better team overall and deserved to win.
Correct, what a spot from Pádraig. With seconds left and tiredness etc, it was some pass.
Absolutely a sad way for Richie to be treated but many many many legends have been treated in the exact same way by same manager.
Treatment of Joey Holden over multiple seasons has been shocking. Joey has been the most consistent defender in Kilkenny club hurling for Ballyhale for the past number of seasons.
A raft of retirements are inevitable in the coming months.
TJ Reid might be the only one who has a choice in the matter with the overhaul likely to take place.
Only back home now from a long day on the road; 600 km racked up.
Firstly, it was great to be at a match again and to have a crowd at it. Great to have an atmosphere.
Secondly, our lads fought until the end, and beyond, so full credit to them. I know they do it every match, and we come to expect it, but it still deserves to be acknowledged.
Thirdly, well done to Cork. They were the better side for the vast majority of the match, and they should never had let it get to extra time.
And finally... Brian, thanks for the unbelievable memories, but please call it a day. For the good of Kilkenny hurling.
I wonder is Cody done? If he is I wouldn't be surprised if TJ sticks around for one more year. New coach, new ideas etc.
Out thought today .....will TJ call it a day ? I think he will ... and Richie , Joey , Cillian and Wally will to
For all the fact that Cork were the better team, Horgan definitely bottled it, Deegan was fouled twice at the end coming out with the ball, a clear free and Horgan blew the final whistle
We are a fairly blunt instrument at the moment bit like bringing a hammer to a knife fight.
Think we have problems at 6,8,9,11 and both wing backs wouldn't have been first choice 6 week ago.
Today was the poorest display by our management I have ever seen
Took of donnelly for mossy
Took of mossy for Wally
Put back on mossy
Put back on richie Reid for maher
Put back on donnelly ryan
Hogan got last ten minutes and was going to be a unused sub only for goal to force et
I was in hogan stand and gorta was arguing strongly for richie to be introduced eventually cody through his hands up and gorta shouted at hogan.
Sad way for a legend to be treated.
After the goal cork took a quick puckout and
Deegen won a break and was grabbed around the neck. Ref bottled it and blew final whistle.
I couldn't agree more... as you say we've been blessed for the the last 20 odd years and no disrespect meant to anyone but we got it all wrong again today and it's getting very frustrating to watch. To keep going route one time after time when it clearly wasn't working was just crazy.
We also knew we had to deal with Cork's running game by cutting it out at the source...press them high up the field but we didn't do that either. The best team won today but I believe that with the right game plan we had the players to win that game and several other games we left behind us.
The Olympic Gold medalist Paul O Donovan said winning the medal wasn't as important as the process... getting the most out of themselves and doing their absolute best, if that led to winning then that would be great but the most disappointing thing would be that they hadn't achieved their potential or that they hadn't given it their best shot.
Our players must feel that disappointment an awful lot.
The difference is that Leicester could play Manchester in the final having lost to them too.
Couple of things today. Ye should have had a free in at the end of normal time - half back got the ball and there was 2 Cork lads hanging off him. Would take a brave ref to give a free. Easy option to blow up. What if a Cork forward caught it and got a shot for a point. Would he have blown mid air.
TJ couldn't make the ball stick today.
Couple of half goal chances went a begging.
Kilkenny forwards didn't win enough of the long 50/50 balls in.
I am from Limerick and dread the thought of playing them again. In a Cup competition which is what Championship effectively is you should not play a team you have already beaten. Imagine Leicester having to beat Man Utd in the FA Cup Final after beating them in the 3rd round.
Best of luck next year. Ye will never be far away.
Great Post above for all the great saves eoin made today its baffling and the worst thing is this went on in the previous two matches.
A blind man could see this. I don't know what we're doing with guys analysing if they can't see this
A lot of people feel like you do to night you are not over reacting.
Just re the balls into the forwards, you have to admire Pádraig Walsh's ball in that led to the goal at the end.
First of all fair play to Cork and the best of luck to them in 2 weeks time.
I'm only going to say this once anyways it at that.
I was behind eoin Murphy in the 2nd half and I have great time for him, probably one of our best keepers in the last 30 years but if he is being coached/ told to land ball after ball into the full forward line then we need a full clear out of management. If he's doing this off his own back then that's a different issue we have with him. I counted 13 puckouts one after another in to the same 10 yard area in their full back line with the same result every time. A catch and/or clearance to start a Cork attack. It was mind blowing stuff. Really hard to fathom. We won't win an all ireland for the foreseeable unless we change our mindset. We took some good scores in the 1st half but we had some dreadful wides also. How did we pick off the scores,? We isolated Billy Ryan and eoin Cody out in the corners, distributed it out wide, they were out 1st, turned and popped it over. Just like Cork did in the 2nd half and extra time.
Can none of our management see this or what's going on?
In fairness to our full back line I thought they did as well as they could have.
Even the half backs did well. But my god what are we playing at with the hit and hope. This year and last year we've won less than 20% of high long balls delivered into our full forward line. That speaks for itself.
I've nothing but the Highest respect for Brian Cody but if you can't coach to your strengths the I'm afraid it's time to call a halt to it. He's been the best we've ever had but now is the time.
Eoin Cody, Billy Ryan, Adrian mullen, James bergin.
These lads want a ball pinged wide into space, control, turn, hand off to support or score.
It's not rocket science but we can't keep doing what we're doing.
Richie hogan not introduced till 2nd half extra time? What's the point here?
Our lads will always be thereabouts and will always have never say die attitude under brian but cuteness of play will bring it of further.
I'm sure there will be a lot of pondering from now on and I know the understanding was/is its Cody's for as long as he wants but nows the time brian.
Its been wonderful and we've been totally blessed for the last 20 years. We've had an unbelievable time that we will never forget.
There are a few options that might surface over the next few months including if thomastown win the intermediate amongst others but a new clear path is hopefully coming.
I hope I don't come across as being too disrespectful to the current management team and yes we don't have the panel we used to have but we can certainly get more from the lads.
This is just my opinion. Maybe I'm over reacting but it's what I believe.
There's no doubt the best team won today. We didn't capitalise on our dominant spell in the 1st half, and I feared that would come back to bite us. Cork tactics eventually came good. I see a lot of criticism of the deliveries to the forward line but in truth Kilkenny forwards weren't getting space to run onto pinpoint clearances. But at the other end Cork were finding oceans of space to play the ball in front of Kingston, O Connor & Co for the last 20 minutes.
Having said all that, there was a definite foul on Deegan after we'd equalised at the death. Can anyone say definitively that the full time whistle came after that?
11 points to 1 off the bench. Kingston got 7. The decision to put Buckley on him was bizarre. Definitely didn't have the legs for him but to be honest I'm not sure who did
Lads battled hard and stayed in the game. In the fhrst 15 mins, should have scored another 3 or 4 points to open up a bigger gap.
Always looked as if Cork were staying in it.
The bench was where it was won - Kingston got 5 or 6 pts when he came in, Dalton got one and others got scored, when introduced. I'll check the total later. KK, iirc, got 1 score from the bench - Richie Hogan. Ironically enough, the bench scored really well V Dublin but not to be today. Cork held all the aces in firepower from the bench.
As I say, lads gave everything and can't be faulted on the day. Worked so hard to close the space down but when the game opened up, Cork had the legs...and the bench.
It looked at times cork had more players and the general feeling is we went out on a high today cause Limerick would probably ate us.
I thought we made a few mistakes today and bringing on delaney was one of them.The treatment of Richie Hogan is hard to believe.It took 80 minutes to bring him on.He at least was a bit dangerous and looked sharp.
We desperately need a more coaching because some of the clearances and deliveries were awful
We will have a few more retirements Richie,joey are no longer in the plans.Blanchfield isn't either.Fogarty,Buckley and wally are in and out but I thought Fogarty tried very hard today.
Fair play to cork and hard luck to our lads.Thats as probably as good as we are at the moment.
Fair play to the lads. Gave it everything, just weren't good enough. No shame in the manner of the defeat and without doubt the better team won.
A puck of a ball in it. We had a few uncontested wides early on which is disappointing.
Agree totally with JJ's left hand. Cannot be faulted for effort but it was all very predictable and one dimensional. It's been clear for a while now a new direction/voice is needed. I hope this happens, by choice, for 2022.
This game will bring Cork on a lot too. Ideal preparation for a shot off Limerick from their perspective. Whilst it looks like it's Limericks to lose ... I wouldn't write off the rebels.
Today was more of the same wasn't it. Second half, lump it long and hope for the best whilst our backline gets ripped to shreds with half the pitch for the opposing team to play the ball into. We're gone stale.
I wasn't surprised. Kilkenny led 0-19 to 0-15 and were outscored 0-14 to 0-7 from then until the end until the goal. They were just hanging on in all honesty and were goosed once extra time came I thought. Showed great spirit to keep it going as well as benefitting from the fact that Cork are not amazing, but it was a rearguard action from about 20 minutes left in normal time for Kilkenny.
Except Kilkenny won that day.
No cork bossed it from 55 mins on, game reminded me of 2016 semi kk completely out played but hung in through sheer stubbornness
It's surprising Cork won after it went to extra-time and Cork had played three games in three weeks before today. Just shows this tiredness thing is overstated.
Kilkenny seemed to run out of steam about the 50 minute mark, kept pumping ball into the full forward line with TJ in the half forward line watching the ball sail over his head
It was a cracker for sure. Sad to see our lads on the losing side, but the best team won. Best of luck to ye in the final.
Fair play white feather... You're spot on re KK giving ye the platform from the back... drove me crazy. The best team won though so congratulations and best of luck in the final.
Bringing back on lads that had been taken off earlier is some insult to the subs..bringing on Conor Delaney who is entitled to be rusty against a very pacy team was ridiculous
Best team won but killing part is we had loads of goal chances
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